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  •  It'd be nice to put someone in DC who cares. (0+ / 0-)

    Here's an example of what I can't get past:

    Blanche Lincoln was one of the Blue Dogs who were responsible for watering down HCR and the stimulus. When  she should've been routinely voting to break filibusters, Lincoln instead routinely insisted on weakening the legislation first.

    In 2010 progressive Bill Halter ran against Lincoln. In the Dem primary, not even 5% of the population of Arkansas bothered to turn out and vote for Halter. So Lincoln beat Halter, then Lincoln lost in November to some generic GOP idiot.

    A similar story played out in several other states.

    The problem is not that progressives don't exist, and it's not that progressives don't run for office. The problem is that when they do, Americans don't elect them.

    Period.

    The problem is that, in a democracy, on average we get what we deserve. "We have met the enemy and he is us."

    I see two reasonable (and very complementary) avenues for progressives:

    1. Focus our limited resources on backing a select few outspoken progressive candidates--potential Al Frankens and Bernie Sanders and Barney Franks. Examples: Alan Grayson; Elizabeth Warren. We need to find folks like this to run not just against GOP incumbents, but against Blue Dog incumbents as well. A few highly-publicized victories will prompt a lot of new candidacies in the same mold.

    2. A Democratic equivalent of the Tea Party: a passionate subset of Democrats who push the party closer to its base, and its core principles, and put the fear of God into the wishy-washy.

    The internet makes this possible, but doesn't make it inevitable. It requires a small group of people with vision and determination to get the ball rolling.

    "The true strength of our nation comes not from the might of our arms or the scale of our wealth, but from the enduring power of our ideals." - Barack Obama

    by HeyMikey on Wed Nov 23, 2011 at 08:15:31 AM PST

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    •  Number 2 is at the doorstep and it is called OWS (0+ / 0-)

      Might not be exactly what you're looking for, but it seems born of much the same anger.

      My belief is that the Tea Party/OWS are essentially the same thing coming from a different point of view, and that there is much potential there.

      Maybe not so much from the folks wearing tri-corner hats or the ones getting scruffy in tents pitched on squares, but those are really just the vanguard fringe.  Just to the left/right of those groups are a lot of people who sympathize in varying degrees.  If those folks start talking and finding their common ground -- well, who knows?

      LG: You know what? You got spunk. MR: Well, Yes... LG: I hate spunk!

      by dinotrac on Wed Nov 23, 2011 at 09:36:28 AM PST

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      •  I hope so, but it's too early to tell. (0+ / 0-)

        The Tea Party is quite focused on electoral politics, within the GOP.

        I'm not sure the OWS crowd is much interested in elections at all, and to the extent they are, I'm afraid they're more interested in some third party fantasy.

        But it's early. We'll see.

        "The true strength of our nation comes not from the might of our arms or the scale of our wealth, but from the enduring power of our ideals." - Barack Obama

        by HeyMikey on Wed Nov 23, 2011 at 11:07:53 AM PST

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        •  Got to be careful when talking about "the Tea (0+ / 0-)

          Party"

          There's certainly no shortage of people who have started up little companies/organizations that call themselves Tea Party thisnthat, and not shortage of people passing themselves off as Tea Party leaders, but...

          If they were really "the" Tea Party, t would be completely inconsequential.

          The Tea Party that matters is no more organized than OWS and is comprised of the people who actually show up at the events or sit at home and say, "Yeah, that's what I'm talkin' about.".

          LG: You know what? You got spunk. MR: Well, Yes... LG: I hate spunk!

          by dinotrac on Wed Nov 23, 2011 at 11:54:10 AM PST

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