Skip to main content

View Diary: The Nuclear Option is Coming. Are you ready? (140 comments)

Comment Preferences

  •  disclaimer: I DO NOT WANT THIS TO PASS (none)
    that being said, I am morbidly curious to see what Reid & co. would do if it DID. Mayhem? Chaos? Break out the popcorn?

    In the midst of life we are in debt, etc.

    by ablington on Sat Apr 02, 2005 at 10:09:21 AM PST

    •  If they have any (4.00)
      gonads (which they finally appear to have, under Reid) they will shut it down until '06 or the rules are re-established - nothing will happen, other than quorum calls, points of order, etc.  It will require keeping a senator on the floor 24 hours a day, and maybe one always at the heels of Frist so they don't call the senate to order in the cloakroom with just a few thugs around, but then again there's a reason it's called the "nuclear option".

      Big Media is hated by the GOP because they sometimes tell the truth. We should hate Big Media for the other 97 percent of the time when they don't.

      by Ugluks Flea on Sat Apr 02, 2005 at 10:32:20 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  but that's why they won't (none)
        Because money has to be appropriated, military promotions have to be approved, benefits have to get paid . . . we can't shut it down, or we'll look like idiots.
        •  Reid's retaliation (4.00)
          would be more nuanced. He has not talked about 'shutting down the government' (he remembers Newt). He has said that vital national matters would proceed. I believe his words were "I will, for lack of a better word, screw things up."

          I don't expect details on just how he will scres things up. That's better left to the imaginations of Frist and co., much like "Wait til your father gets home."

          I've got blisters on my fingers!

          by Elwood Dowd on Sat Apr 02, 2005 at 10:59:55 AM PST

          [ Parent ]

          •  I still don't see the endgame (none)
            How do we win?
            •  For the most part, we don't (none)
              This is Mutual Assured Destruction. The role of Reid's threat is mostly to scare off the Nuclear Option.

              If it goes through, though, I suspect Reid has a list of legislation important to the Republican Senators who are up for re-election, and plans to block each such bill.

              I wonder if it could also mean no budget, just continuing resolutions. If so, would that kill ANWR drilling and the bankruptcy changes?

              I've got blisters on my fingers!

              by Elwood Dowd on Sat Apr 02, 2005 at 12:05:21 PM PST

              [ Parent ]

          •  Screwing Things Up (4.00)
            One way to do that would be to put so many procedural and other questions in front of the committees that the Republicans don't have time to finish any committee business. That would stall everything. Certainly, a concerted effort to delay the committees would bring Congress to its knees. And they wouldn't just have the Senate committees to work on, they could work on the House committees, too.

            The vast majority of work in Congress is done in committees. Making a concerted and widespread effort to disrupt them would throw an enormous monkey wrench into the system.

            Simply reading the text of all of the bills would be sufficient to cause many hours of delays. And who can object to actually reading the bills? Don't the Republicans want to know what they are signing into law?

            I think the committees might experience a lot of fall out from the nuclear option. (Tee-hee!)

            Liberal Thinking

            Think, liberally.

            by Liberal Thinking on Sun Apr 03, 2005 at 01:24:34 AM PST

            [ Parent ]

            •  And, it's not on TV. (none)
              And, it would be considerably harder to explain than the Newt Gingrich-style shutdown. As soon as there's complexity beyond a level that everyone can see and understand for themselves, the message that "the Democrats are the ones really at fault" becomes hard to sell.

              Good thought.

      •  Someone on the floor 24 hours. (none)
        I wonder if this could be compared in some way to Mr. Smith Goes to Washington?
    •  I ask unanimous consent...I object... ad infinitum (none)

Subscribe or Donate to support Daily Kos.

  • Recommended (157)
  • Community (73)
  • Elections (44)
  • Environment (43)
  • Bernie Sanders (42)
  • 2016 (41)
  • Hillary Clinton (35)
  • Spam (35)
  • Culture (34)
  • Republicans (33)
  • Media (32)
  • Climate Change (32)
  • Civil Rights (28)
  • Labor (27)
  • Science (24)
  • Congress (24)
  • Law (24)
  • Education (24)
  • Barack Obama (22)
  • Trans-Pacific Partnership (22)
  • Click here for the mobile view of the site