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  •  This bill is a bright red line for me... (28+ / 0-)

    I will not vote for any politician who votes for or signs this bill, ever again, nor for any politician who announces his/her support for it. That means Democrats and that means Obama -- no exceptions.

    As the owner of a startup company whose business is based on fair use of syndicated online media, I see this bill as one of the most egregious threats to online entrepreneurship ever conceived. If it becomes law, it will squelch nearly all innovation on the web and lock in the currently large online companies as immune to new competition arising. All they would have to do is just send one of these letters and shut down any new competitor without even having to go to court and have a judge agree with their argument.

    I am disgusted that such a bill is even being considered in the United States of America. They might as well title it the "Online Monopoly Promotion and Small Business Prevention and Destruction Act."

    Eric Stetson -- Author, Speaker, Visionary.

    by Eric Stetson on Wed Nov 23, 2011 at 04:00:03 PM PST

    •  You should see who's sponsoring it (12+ / 0-)

      On the Senate side co-sponsors include Frankin and Durbin. Durbin's my senator -- I sent him a strongly worded letter about it and got back some mealy mush about American jobs. And if Franken asks me for more money, he's getting an earful.

      Note to NSA: You can have my Constitution when you pry it from my cold dead hands. Nyah Nyah Nyah

      by smith on Wed Nov 23, 2011 at 04:07:00 PM PST

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      •  Well then I guess I'm probably on my way out (10+ / 0-)

        of any association with the Democratic Party. I've already been considering myself mostly an independent progressive, but this bill will probably seal the deal for me as being a non-Democrat from now on, who will selectively vote for Democrats when I agree with their policies but who will otherwise withhold my vote. It would be unfortunate if Obama signs this, but if he does, he will have lost a vote in the swing state of Virginia where I reside.

        Eric Stetson -- Author, Speaker, Visionary.

        by Eric Stetson on Wed Nov 23, 2011 at 04:12:55 PM PST

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      •  And *Debbie Wasserman-Schultz* on the House side! (8+ / 0-)

        WTF??? Is there some legislative trick they get to pull with the bills in markup because they are co-sponsors? I don't get it. Especially after Leader Pelosi has come out strongly against SOPA.

        I thought Dems were the party of 'Net Neutrality.

        •  No it's not a legislative trick. (0+ / 0-)

          The bill is needed and it is not a censorship bill as the diarist suggests. Don't fall for the misleading title.

          Pelosi is a politician and is doing the bidding of the tech companies that are in her backyard. The tech companies don't want this bill passed because they think that it's going to cost them the revenue they get from turning the other way while IP rights are violated.  It's that simple.

          Right man, right job and right time

          by Ianb007 on Wed Nov 23, 2011 at 09:30:49 PM PST

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          •  That's it. The Corporations who want (3+ / 0-)
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            endless extension to copyrights they bought decades ago from long dead artists are really, really the good guys in all this.

            You hit it right on the head.  The MPAA is just seeking to do what is right, because they value the right.

            Pelosi is a tech sector pawn.


            She's the sort of person who would not only happily stay in Omelas, but would ask "Couldn't life be more wonderful if we threw a few more kids in there?"

            by JesseCW on Thu Nov 24, 2011 at 07:51:30 AM PST

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            •  This has nothing to do with copyright extension. (1+ / 0-)
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              That's another topic.  It's about piracy today.  

              It's about song writers and script writers and artists and authors and musicians that are alive and creating today.  Will it benefit big corporations. Yes. Sometimes doing the right thing benefits corporations, much to the chagrin of people on here who have a kneejerk, anti corporation stand.  

              However not passing the bill also benefits even bigger tech corporations that dwarf the entertainment industry in revenue and lobbying budgets.  Google just recently had to pay a 500 million fine to the government for violating laws with the regard to the selling counterfeit drugs online.  

              So you think Google and microsoft are the good guys in all of this?  At least there a trade unions for this bill.

              The bill needs to be fixed and passed.

              Right man, right job and right time

              by Ianb007 on Thu Nov 24, 2011 at 01:22:57 PM PST

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              •  You bet your ass it does. (0+ / 0-)

                There's a reason our Constitution called for a limit to copyright.

                Because works of art eventually become part of our cultural heritage, something we are all entitled to use freely.

                One of the primary drivers of "piracy" is this insane destruction of the very concept of that such a public commons exists or should exist.

                This isn't about Artists (who the Corporations backing this bill screw over without hesitation) but rather about the ability of NewsCorp to shut down DailyKos without so much as a courtroom appearance.

                You're damned right that there are Trade Unions (and not Industrial Unions) for this bill.  They are nothing but guilds, with the precise mindset of their 15th century fore bearers.  IATSE isn't exactly concerned with what's good for the rest of the country, and never has been.

                Sometimes, doing the right thing harms Corporate Interests...which makes it kind of easy to identify those whose primary purpose in posting here is to defend those interests.

                She's the sort of person who would not only happily stay in Omelas, but would ask "Couldn't life be more wonderful if we threw a few more kids in there?"

                by JesseCW on Fri Nov 25, 2011 at 09:11:46 AM PST

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                •  Internet piracy is what this bill adresses... (0+ / 0-)

                  You are conflating two separate issues.

                  The unions that are backing this bill include set designers and set carpenters. Not to mention the musicians union.

                  Show me where in the bill a corporation like newscorp can shut down daily Kos. Where is it?

                  So because entertainment coporations sometimes screw artists it's ok for Google , tech companies and internet users to screw them also. That's just makes no sense.

                  Right man, right job and right time

                  by Ianb007 on Sat Nov 26, 2011 at 06:26:16 PM PST

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