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  •  I'm disturbed by the implication (40+ / 0-)

    that we should all be "respectful" of elected officials simply because they are in office and that there are consequences if we are not. People are allowed to criticize their government. This is still America, right?

    "No doubt many are offended by the idea of same-sex marriage. But, of course, those who don’t like the idea of same-sex marriage don’t have to marry someone of the same sex." - Prof. Erwin Chemerinsky

    by indiemcemopants on Sat Nov 26, 2011 at 02:14:07 PM PST

    •  No we need not be respectful of elected officials (3+ / 0-)
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      simply because they are in office.  But one would do well to remember the maxim that "the politician, having no self-respect, demands a great show of respect from all."  Having been invited to meet the distinguished governor ("distinguished" means nothing more than that you can tell the difference between him and, say, Gov. Jerry Brown), one would do the most for one's own interest by showing at least the respect of silence and not lying about what something you didn't have the courage to say.

      •  So... keep your mouth shut, then? (1+ / 0-)
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        RockyMtnLib

        Is that the solution?

        Having been invited to meet the distinguished governor ("distinguished" means nothing more than that you can tell the difference between him and, say, Gov. Jerry Brown), one would do the most for one's own interest by showing at least the respect of silence and not lying about what something you didn't have the courage to say.

        Yes, in the same way a union member would "do the most for (his) own self interest" by crossing a picket line and going back to work.

        Please don't call yourself a "DFH." It's not helpful.

        by VictorLaszlo on Sat Nov 26, 2011 at 02:55:32 PM PST

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      •  She didn't say anything (9+ / 0-)

        She tweeted something. This wasn't a reporter with lots of followers and media contacts tweeting something about Brownback, this was an 18 year old high school student.
        Now there are organizations and people all over Kansas that speak out about the governor all over Twitter and Facebook all the time, yet Brownback's staff has never contacted them.
        He's being a bully to a high school kid because he can. He needs to admit his staff overreacted and apologize to this young girl.
        The man needs to hold himself to a higher standard of behavior to his constituents.

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        by skohayes on Sat Nov 26, 2011 at 03:10:37 PM PST

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        •  She is not ... (1+ / 0-)
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          grover

          She is not a young "girl".  Being over 18, she is a young woman.   The "Age of Majority" is Kansas is 18, as it is in most other states (except Alabama (21), Nebraska (19), and Mississippi (21), and the District of Columbia (21)

    •  it's a huge double standard (4+ / 0-)
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      TexasTom, brein, raster44, Matt Z

      You're allowed to criticize the Kenyan Marxist usurper though because IOKIYAR.

    •  Respect for elected officials (1+ / 0-)
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      susanala

      Well, yes, to some extent we should respect elected officials.  Because even if the particular officials in question are jackasses, we still owe the office and our system of government some amount of respect.

      So, for example, if she'd yelled in his face that he sucked, I would consider that disrespectful behavior, albeit still constitutionally protected.  Now I'll note that Republicans, by and large, don't seem to be particularly concerned about respect for elected officials or the offices they hold when those officials are Democrats...but that's a different problem.

      Unfortunately, in this case, the argument of "disrespect" seems to be intended to discourage dissent.  Because, really, how was her tweet any more disrespectful than if she'd posted it to a blog, published it on the editorial page of a newspaper, or whatever?  And criticism is not the same as disrespect -- although, again, I'll note that Republicans do tend to treat them as being equivalent as long as it's a Republican in office.

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      by TexasTom on Sat Nov 26, 2011 at 03:47:15 PM PST

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      •  Righties use the (2+ / 0-)
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        "you better respect me" card in the same manner that authoritarian patriarchs demand it from the wife and kids, otherwise, it's "go get the switch" or "you want me to take my belt off?" Contradicting them is disrespectful because it's insubordinate.

        liberal bias = failure to validate or sufficiently flatter the conservative narrative on any given subject

        by RockyMtnLib on Sat Nov 26, 2011 at 03:59:01 PM PST

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    •  Miss Sullivan's question to Brownback (2+ / 0-)

      should be "are you threatening me?" or "and if I don't apologize, whatcha gonna do 'bout it? Hmmm?"

      And have her parent(s) reacted at all about this?

      liberal bias = failure to validate or sufficiently flatter the conservative narrative on any given subject

      by RockyMtnLib on Sat Nov 26, 2011 at 03:49:13 PM PST

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