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  •  "enslavement" "forcibly extracting wages"? (4+ / 0-)

    Seriously?

    I believe in long term marriages, where one spouse is the bread winner and the other was supporting the family, running the house, minding the children, pets and ailing parents....yes, that damn high wage earner only got there and had a family because someone else was doing all the work on the home side.

    If that marriage dissolves because that high wage earner decides to walk - and leaves the spouse that didn't have the chance to get out into the working wold - hell yes that high earner better support that spouse that took care of the home for him for all those years.

    I just got divorced from a guy like that - everything we did we did for "us", for the family, for our "retirement" - but at the peak of the career i helped support, he decided he'd like a fancier partner, new friends - same high paying career but more fun - and now I am left to do what - rebuild? Yes - hooray for community property" but he hasn't been earning these big bucks all that long for us to have accumulated substantial assests - he'll be able to haul those in in the next several years before his very secure retirement and i will be having to cobble together some semblance of a "career" ... more likely hanging on to crap jobs if I am lucky ... to presserve what few assets I was awarded.

    Bailing on marriage vows, years of "promises" and dreams - hell yeah those that do owe it to the ones they decide to bail on so they can go "find" themselves in middle age. It is not "enslavement". In many cases it is justice.

    In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress. John Adams

    by blue armadillo on Mon Nov 28, 2011 at 07:03:19 AM PST

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    •  So, basically, the alimony-receiver gets out (2+ / 0-)
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      of the relationship; and the alimony-payer is shackled to it for a court-determined period of time.

      Yes, that's forced servitude. Giving up one's career to support a marriage entitles one to an increased portion of the marital assets, as an "in-kind" contribution to them.

      But no adult has the right to live off the work of another against that person's will.

      Non enim propter gloriam, diuicias aut honores pugnamus set propter libertatem solummodo quam Nemo bonus nisi simul cum vita amittit. -Declaration of Arbroath

      by Robobagpiper on Mon Nov 28, 2011 at 07:18:39 AM PST

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      •  Give me a break (1+ / 0-)
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        Greed, greed, greed. You sucked her dry and you want to dump her and let her die in poverty. You lived off her unpaid labor for decades - clearly indentured servitude if not slavery - and now you want to toss her aside and laugh as she works a minimum wage job or two or three to try to support the kids, like Joe Walsh's wife.

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      I believe in long term marriages, where one spouse is the bread winner and the other was supporting the family, running the house, minding the children, pets and ailing parents....yes, that damn high wage earner only got there and had a family because someone else was doing all the work on the home side.

      I don't, and won't date women who do. It is important to me that my spouse has a career and does not need me economically. I have no interest in being involved in the situation you describe, and women without work skills are not interesting to me anyway (what do you talk about?).

      (-5.50,-6.67): Left Libertarian
      Leadership doesn't mean taking a straw poll and then just throwing up your hands. -Jyrinx

      by Sparhawk on Mon Nov 28, 2011 at 09:22:32 AM PST

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      •  Many men feel this way (1+ / 0-)
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        Divorce law sets men for failure.  

        Men today have seen the fathers of the previous generation go through the horrors of divorce and they don't want to be the next victim.

        So many men are looking to acquire their assets before marriage and then marry a woman who is as self-supportive as they are.

        When you add someone to your life who is as self-supportive as you are the results can be very good.  The financial benefit is obvious and there is great potential for mutual respect.

        They create a family law paper fortress without a pre-nuptuial agreement.

         

        Are there no prisons? No workhouses?

        by meatballs on Mon Nov 28, 2011 at 09:28:49 AM PST

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