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  •  Well, I read shit. (0+ / 0-)


    #Occupy, exposing the US police state to the world.

    by OleHippieChick on Mon Nov 28, 2011 at 05:58:28 PM PST

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    •  Mark B's comment is what stinks. (12+ / 0-)

      What you posted is the Subsection after the relevant one.

      Section 1031 is what the diary references. And Section 1031 clearly gives the authority for military detention of US citizens.

      The section you cited, Section 1032, only references a REQUIREMENT to detain. In that case, there is no "REQUIREMENT" to detain a US citizen.

      But requirement or not, Section 1031 quite clearly gives the authority.

      More and Better Democrats

      by SJerseyIndy on Mon Nov 28, 2011 at 06:08:38 PM PST

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      •  OK, but at the risk of splitting hairs... (1+ / 0-)
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        ... and appearing like some kind of MIC apologist, it's not all that clear, or at least doesn't seem to be nearly as sweeping as it has been portrayed as being.

        From the above-quoted text of 1031, definition of "covered person":

        (1) A person who planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored those responsible for those attacks.

        (2) A person who was a part of or substantially supported al-Qaeda, the Taliban, or associated forces that are engaged in hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners, including any person who has committed a belligerent act or has directly supported such hostilities in aid of such enemy forces.

        I'll be quite happy to see these provisions go down in flames, but it doesn't seem like they're doing anything more than codifying the existing loathsome practice of treating accused AQ/Taleban members as some kind of supernaturally dangerous force that can't be dealt with by ordinary criminal justice.  

        There is a definite risk of this or future administrations equating all sorts of peaceful protest activity with "supporting al Qaeda," but frankly that risk has been with us for a while, and I really don't see how this changes much.

      •  Well, that's a huge relief (2+ / 0-)
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        that my possible future imprisonment will be entirely voluntary on the part of the MIC, not a hard and fast requirement.

        Whew, I feel MUCH better now.

      •  where does it clearly say that? (0+ / 0-)

        The only clear language I see specifically referring to U.S. citizens says that military detention is not required for U.S. citizens. Which means such a person will be handled in the criminal justice system as usual.

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