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  •  Smokers don't have the freedom to assemble anymore (2+ / 0-)
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    Cordyc, Athenian

    Smokers used to be able to assemble in bars and clubs and associate with each other.  Not anymore.
    They used to be able to hang out together on the sidewalk outside the bar or in a public park.  Not anymore.  Their Right to Assemble was stripped, in the name of public safety of course.

    Well what do you think is happening when OWS protests are cleared out, also in the name of public safety?  It's all just another form of government control, the loss of individual liberty.  Are you honestly going to claim that there is NO comparison between telling people they can't smoke in a public park and telling them they can't have a tent in a public park?

    •  Of course they have the right to assemble (2+ / 0-)
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      futurebird, highacidity

      They just can't smoke while they do it.

      NOT a civil liberties issue.

      We decided to move the center farther to the right by starting the whole debate from a far-right position to begin with. - Former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay

      by denise b on Thu Dec 01, 2011 at 05:24:47 PM PST

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      •  I can say the exact same thing about OWS (0+ / 0-)

        Of course they have the right to assemble.

        They just can't be in public while they do it.  OWS is perfectly free to assemble in their homes to protest the 1%.  If protesters want to camp out in some guy's Brooklyn loft and wave signs, they're free to do so, as long as they're completely out of sight of the 1%.  But having them protest the 1% in a public park is a safety issue and can't be allowed.

        What's the reason for banning smoking in public?  That second hand smoke causes cancer, right?  Well I'm sorry, but there is basically a 1 in a million chance that someone is going to get lung cancer because they caught a wiff of smoke on the sidewalk.

        But there is also a 1 in a million chance that someone will be killed if an OWS protest gets out of hand.  Therefore, if smoking can be banned from public spaces to protect the public, then protesting can be also.

        Still want to claim it's not a civil liberties issue?

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