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  •  nobody does beethoven like karanjan (8+ / 0-)

    mmmmm...the 9th.  gorgeousness and gorgeosity!

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    god i love the 9th.

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    by Cedwyn on Fri Dec 09, 2011 at 06:13:13 AM PST

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    •  Bruno Walter is marvelous too (8+ / 0-)

      He's the preeminent Mahler composer, of course, but I adore his Beethoven too.  The old-school Teutonic conductors like these guys just get Beethoven in a way other conductors don't.  

      Toscanini's Beethoven Ninths are intriguing and jaw-dropping too, with some unrivaled moments, but I always hear Toscanini rather than just Beethoven.

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      by Dallasdoc on Fri Dec 09, 2011 at 06:18:52 AM PST

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      •  there's just a warmth/depth (1+ / 0-)
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        to the recordings of karanjan's work with the BPO.  others just didn't sound as rich.

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        by Cedwyn on Sat Dec 10, 2011 at 07:14:17 AM PST

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        •  What I like about Karajan (1+ / 0-)
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          is the ENERGY.  He puts energy into his Beethoven.

          You have to remember, von Karajan took over the BPO, and the BPO is a Beethoven orchestra.  BPO traditionally didn't play music that wasn't part of the "standard repertoire."  They were conservative and specialized in the warhorses.  Simon Rattle put it in his contract with BPO that that had to change.  Because of their specialization, though, the demands of BPO management on Beethoven conductors were VERY high.  Being a good Beethoven conductor was obligatory for the BPO, like the Boston Pops conductor having to play a good Star Wars.

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