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  •  You are absolutely right (6+ / 0-)

    on all points here.

    State and local taxes should be primarily from income and should be progressive.

    As for excise taxes, I see benefits if applied properly. The excise tax on cigarettes is not just to discourage smoking but also to pay for increased health costs. And gasoline taxes not only can be used to encourage conservation but to pave highways and build bridges. It does not seem unreasonable to ask even the poor to contribute to those.

    "Those are my principles, and if you don't like them...well, I have others." --Groucho Marx

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    by Dragon5616 on Sat Dec 03, 2011 at 09:35:13 AM PST

    •  Also, I am republishing this to J Town. (5+ / 0-)
      Republished in the J Town Babbling Brook


      Burble Burble

      "Those are my principles, and if you don't like them...well, I have others." --Groucho Marx

      48forEastAfrica - Donate to Oxfam

      by Dragon5616 on Sat Dec 03, 2011 at 09:39:40 AM PST

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    •  Excise taxes (3+ / 0-)
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      are frequently used simply to boost revenue. If cigarette taxes were actually used to pay for increased health care costs, I'd certainly be in favor of them. But I think that in the main, they are just a convenient source of revenue that few people will object to.

      Gasoline taxes are a special case, and there are three considerations: the revenue they produce, CO2 emissions and dwindling fossil fuel sources. I'm not smart enough to balance gasoline taxes against these three, so I plead neutral about them.

      Incidentally, I think commercial vehicles are the major source of wear and tear on our highway system, and should bear the brunt of highway maintenance.

      Occupy is the symptom. Fundamental reform is the cure.

      by Tim DeLaney on Sat Dec 03, 2011 at 10:49:40 AM PST

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      •  I think that sin taxes are simply wrong way (2+ / 0-)
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        to try to influence behavior. We  have been using them for a long time and the ones who pay the largest percentage and more regressive amounts are those least able to afford them.

        So some rich jerk will drive all he wants but someone making minimum wage can barely buy enough gas to get to work where he can sell cigarettes to those who are richer and don't really care about the tax.  It is the most irritating idea of the left ... use taxes to force social behavior. If you don't want public monies to be used for people who self abuse then pass the laws that way but be careful. It may be your self abusing choices that are next to delineate a group who is bad and should be punished to train them like lab rats to behave in the way the controllers think is best.

        Fear is the Mind Killer

        by boophus on Sat Dec 03, 2011 at 12:39:27 PM PST

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