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  •  Chris, I don't "like" Google. I don't like "smart (0+ / 0-)

    phones" or "DK" collecting data on my viewing habits.  Please set me straight about how this is a good thing.

    •  The bill has nothing to do with tracking. (4+ / 0-)

      It has everything to do with trying to get the power to take down a website's financial support for one rogue user posting a single link to a youtube vid the uploader did not have absolute copyright to, with no involvement of a court needed to prove the link infringed on anything, under one of the two bills.

      So pretty much any site with a comments section or forum would have to go to full comment moderation, remove the section entirely, or know one disgruntled opponent could just post three lines of an in-copyright song into a comment to get all payments to the site halted and the DNS connection between the domain name and the site IP address revoked in the US within five days of the posting.

      Prayers and best wishes to those in Japan.

      by Cassandra Waites on Thu Dec 01, 2011 at 03:41:23 PM PST

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      •  Cassandra, logic aside, do you mean that musicians (0+ / 0-)

        would suffer if I send web traffic their way? Are you saying journalists, or their home site, object to additional traffic?

        •  What are you talking about? (2+ / 0-)
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          You seem to have no clue what this bill is actually about. I suggest reading up on it. Just because Google and Facebook oppose it doesn't mean it's a good thing.

          Proud supporter of nuclear power!

          by zegota on Thu Dec 01, 2011 at 05:02:13 PM PST

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        •  I'm saying that traffic will GO AWAY. (2+ / 0-)
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          Under the more odious version, every site with comments may have to go to full moderation or kill the comments section. Or ban links and pray no one posts lyrics or quotes.

          So no one gets linked to the page a band announces their new album, except for at places small enough or rich enough to have the moderation staff to match a comment section's demands or their label's own site. The people who already knew they might buy the album will see it. The people who didn't even know a new album was in the works won't.

          And reviewers, amateur and pro, would have to worry if a fair use quote of any book, movie, song, etc would rise to the level where someone could yank the ad funding, rightly or not.

          And heaven help a musical artist who paid for a license to cover a song but has his or her page improperly reported for a sample clip and then has to battle to get the site unblocked again when a court wasn't required to do it in the first place. Or to get the card companies and paypal to start processing album purchases again, even for albums there was never an IP dispute about in the first place.

          And as far as television shows and movies go, they can probably kiss online fandom goodbye if the more odious of the two laws passes, because a lot of the things that drum up interest - a lot of the legal fair-use things that drum up interest - would die out under what it would take for a site owner to feel safe from takedown threat under that law.

          Prayers and best wishes to those in Japan.

          by Cassandra Waites on Thu Dec 01, 2011 at 05:32:11 PM PST

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