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  •  Honestly, I think the window to act has passed. (5+ / 0-)

    The kind of coordinated, global response required to address this issue, especially at this late stage, just is not going to happen.

    If you feel like depressing yourself, here's a great fictional novel written 40 years ago that describes what life might look like: The Sheep Look Up

    "Give to every other human being every right that you claim for yourself." - Robert G. Ingersoll

    by Apost8 on Mon Dec 05, 2011 at 07:06:02 AM PST

    •  Except there has been progress on a number (6+ / 0-)

      of fronts since the publication of that book. Yes, the pushback has been tremendous and we have lost ground since that time.

      The pollutant we seek to curb this time is the "spice" that keeps the Empire in business. Tall order to change. Almost like trying to move the iceberg instead of the Titanic.

      “The first principle [in science] is that you must not fool yourself, and you are the easiest person to fool.” Richard Feynman

      by the fan man on Mon Dec 05, 2011 at 07:16:32 AM PST

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    •  That's my view as well. (4+ / 0-)

      The time when we could have done something to prevent it is long past as far my limited information tells me. We're just going to have to learn our lesson the hard way and suffer.

      Of course, we should still seek to limit emissions as this is the right thing to do. But the idea that there is something we humans can do to reverse climate change? Nope. Not gonna happen for at least another 20-30 years.

      •  can't reverse it. can make it less bad (6+ / 0-)

        down the road, though.

        there is a continuum of possible outcomes. how it will play out is not written in stone - there is still time to do some writing.

        the difference between 2° and 6° of planetary warming is gigantic. and this is still in play.

        As the world warms, the reigning ideology that tells us it’s everyone for themselves, that victims deserve their fate, that we can master nature, will take us to a very cold place indeed - Naomi Klein

        by mightymouse on Mon Dec 05, 2011 at 09:29:34 AM PST

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      •  Rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic... (0+ / 0-)

        #OccupyOMC - "We have a permit, its called The Constitution".

        by Evolutionary on Mon Dec 05, 2011 at 01:17:34 PM PST

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