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  •  I guess we'll see.... (0+ / 0-)

    ....because it's literally impossible to improve the African-American unemployment picture between now and then.

    More educational opportunities are needed, not more fast-food jobs. (The unemployment rate among college grads is about 4.6 percent.)

    And that takes a long time to bear fruit.


    The revolution will not be privatized.

    by Bush Bites on Wed Dec 07, 2011 at 05:41:58 AM PST

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    •  Boy that's a real rallying cry! (0+ / 0-)

      "Things are going to continue to suck for you for a long, long time and there's pretty much nothing I can do about it. Vote for me."


      I'm being facetious but in all seriousness folks will vote for Obama because...well...he's a decent guy and he's trying. More sympathy than enthusiasm. But he certainly can't come into black communities talking about his record jobs and economy unless he wants to get laughed at.

      •  He has to present a future vision, agree. (0+ / 0-)

        African-Americans have been sliding for a long time, and most of that has to do with substandard educations and lack of opportunities to go to college.

        And, OK, if the economy picks up, they will have more job opportunities, but they won't be the kind of jobs that can move them into the middle class. That comes from educational opportunities.

        A side issue:

        I wonder how the African Americans are being hit by state and local government cuts, as well as post office cuts. In my city, African-Americans are vastly overrepresented in these types of jobs. In fact, these types of jobs are probably the backbone of the African-American middle class where I live.

        When you think about that, I'd assume African-Americans are more likely to vote for the people who want to keep government jobs than those that want to cut them even more.

        The revolution will not be privatized.

        by Bush Bites on Wed Dec 07, 2011 at 06:02:22 AM PST

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        •  Obama froze their pay. (0+ / 0-)

          I'm sure that didn't exactly endear federal workers to their president. Especially after doling out a coupla hundred billion to Wall Street.

          As for educational opportunities and what, i'll just talk more about that joke at a later date.

          But it isn't true black folks have been always sliding backwards. Right up through Bill Clinton there was a steady increase in overall earnings, net worth, and upward mobility. It did begin to stagnate a bit under Bush. But it has absolutely crashed down to the floor under Obama. We're almost back where we were before the civil rights act in terms of relative standard of living. And none of those green labor factories Obama crows about have been located in black neighborhoods. None of em.

          Ever seen him visit a factory in a black neighborhood? Exactly.

          So yeah...this is pretty much a God awful state of affairs. Not Obama's fault of course. But has he done anything about any of it? No. And if we start asking, he will have to say no for political reasons that are completely understandable.

      •  The same old voter conundrum - (0+ / 0-)

        Who is the least worst?

        "In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." - H. L. Mencken

        by SueDe on Wed Dec 07, 2011 at 06:03:21 AM PST

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    •  I'm thinking you're wrong on this one. I think, (2+ / 0-)
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      bewareofme, sebastianguy99

      even though the unemployment numbers are bad, they know why they're bad.
      GOP obstruction.
      They've been watching the race-baiting and hearing the dog-whistles the last 3 years, too.
      There's also the voter suppression effort by the GOP, which is going to boomerang on them.
      I think the poll numbers right now are very fluid, and express a mood, a collective opinion, but I think this next election will be taken very seriously. That's always good for the Dems.

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