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  •  i'm not sure dinotrac's calling it a good thing (1+ / 0-)
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    as much as the fact that Ron Paul is at least consistent in his positions. Crazy? Yes, most of them. But if you're going to say you're a small government fiscal conservative then you should definitely be eyeing the annual MIC expenditures unfavorably as well as the ridiculous amount of money being spent on the "drug war". If you're going to say you're all in for small government, then you can't be advocating instituting rules and regulations about who marries whom and whether certain religions are allowed to build buildings. If you're going to say you're pro-life, then how do you advocate for the death penalty but against abortion?

    I'm no fan of Ron Paul (understatement of the millennium) but he's a hell of a lot more consistent in his position that the "classical GOP". Not perfectly consistent, but certainly not as dissonant at the classical GOP, IMO.

    Now as for Dean? Hell, I'd love to see the day Democrats run as Democrats. I think the lunacy of the right is almost proportionate to the degree to which the democratic party has moved rightward and the brand is potentially destroyed by it. If we had a conservative party that was like the current blue dog caucus, I think we'd have a left wing democratic party. Ironically, the right is SO off the rails that even conservative democrats (who embrace classically conservative positions) are being called "left", while we one the actual left are "radicals" and "marxists" and "communists".

    the disintegration of the GOP and classical conservatism WITHIN the GOP is hurting us all.

    I've become re-radicalized. Thanks a lot you bunch of oligarchical fascist sons-of-bitches. But once again, I have no choice. Bring it the fuck on.

    by mdmslle on Wed Dec 07, 2011 at 06:47:15 AM PST

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    •  he is consistent (1+ / 0-)
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      aka unyielding and uncompromising.

      we have a bunch of TP Republicans who are the same way in the House.

      I don't see it as a plus.

      "Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." - Groucho Marx

      by Greg Dworkin on Wed Dec 07, 2011 at 07:24:40 AM PST

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      •  Paul is principled. (1+ / 0-)
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        He's a lot more interesting than other GOP types with his opposition to foreign adventurism and belief that the government has no place in marriage, etc.

        Seems to me to be about the same thing as Howard Dean with the polarities reversed.

        Howard Dean, btw, remains my favorite Democrat.
        By a lot.

        Ron Paul is my favorite Republican.
        By default.

        LG: You know what? You got spunk. MR: Well, Yes... LG: I hate spunk!

        by dinotrac on Wed Dec 07, 2011 at 08:12:10 AM PST

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      •  "he is consistent" (0+ / 0-)

        I second your thought, demfromct.

        I can admire having principles, but his principles stand in stark opposition to the job he's seeking. He's seeking to be the chief executive of an entity that he doesn't believe in.

        How is that principled?

      •  consistent is not equal to unyielding (0+ / 0-)

        Consistent is using one standard to judge something.

        If you say you're a fiscal conservative who hates deficits, you ought to be willing to consider cuts to the biggest annual expenditure we have: the military.

        That Paul is willing to look at that expenditure means that when he says he wants to "save money" that's a consistent position, regardless of what or where the cuts might come from.

        A person who calls themselves pro-life (anti-abortion) ought ALSO to be anti-death penalty. That's not unyielding. It's a consistent position on the issue of life. That taking a life in any form (whether a fetus or a convicted felon) is wrong. That's not unyielding, it's a position based on what it means to be pro-life. The current GOP advocates for protecting the unborn but loves the idea of 234 executions.

        Being unyielding is not the same thing.

        But as I said, I am no a fan of Paul or libertarianism. I think it's a flawed system that is impossible to institute.

        I've become re-radicalized. Thanks a lot you bunch of oligarchical fascist sons-of-bitches. But once again, I have no choice. Bring it the fuck on.

        by mdmslle on Wed Dec 07, 2011 at 11:15:15 AM PST

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