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  •  Ha! (0+ / 0-)

    People don't look to me as a barometer. People look to me because I've got a bigger soapbox than you do. I'm no different than you. I just get heard more.

    In any case, no I don't follow you because I'm not like you. I come from the gutter. My father came to this country with nothing and practically died in Vietnam to earn his citizenship. I grew up in the Pink Houses. I didn't go straight to college. Couldn't afford it and had no interest in it. I became a Marine.

    So yeah...I can't identify with someone who has private schools and what not. I've met folks like yourself but don't know any on a personal level. Far above my social class. Both my girls (16 and 13) go to public schools right here in the hood. By choice, not necessity.

    •  here's the thing though homie (0+ / 0-)

      your experience is damn sure no more indicative of black life in the USA than mine.

      so that's on you that you can't relate.  I actually do know folks on a personal level that came up like you and I think it's a real shame you can't say the reverse.

      it's a big world out there.

      This comment is dedicated to my mellow Adept2U and his Uncle Marcus

      by mallyroyal on Wed Dec 07, 2011 at 08:06:57 AM PST

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    •  ROFL I had to come back: you just revealed how (1+ / 0-)
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      your household makes like 4 times mine and AFTER that tried to take me to task for being "above your social class"

      fuck outta here LMAOOO you almost had me going there.  good one.

      This comment is dedicated to my mellow Adept2U and his Uncle Marcus

      by mallyroyal on Wed Dec 07, 2011 at 08:09:01 AM PST

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      •  Luck brah. (0+ / 0-)

        Some people got it. Some people dont.

        But that has nothing to do with ones social class. When you start making a lot of money, you'll see that.

        •  this ain't england, "brah" (0+ / 0-)

          social class IS money here.  you know that as well as I do.

          I don't begrudge you your luck but you begrudge me my upbringing, same as you do the prez.  that's just ridiculously subjective when it comes to class in America.  you're just floundering for something to say at this point.

          This comment is dedicated to my mellow Adept2U and his Uncle Marcus

          by mallyroyal on Wed Dec 07, 2011 at 08:31:34 AM PST

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          •  Actually, (0+ / 0-)

            it isn't that. I just know that social class has nothing to do with money. You might think that, but you'd be wrong. In fact, I used to think like you do. But that was mistake. It has very much to do, in America, with where you went to school. There are plenty of New England blue bloods who make far less than me but can get into clubs that wouldn't give me the time of day. You either, I suspect.

            Money is just what it is. A thing to facilitate trade. Says nothing about your upbringing, social class, or character.

            •  you can pay for your kid to go ANYWHERE (0+ / 0-)

              and merit can get you there too.  I thought that was the whole thrust of your Punahoe argument, pick one.

              if social class is about an elitist "where did you go to school" thing, and money can't buy you into those schools, then your assumption about the prez, me, AND my kid makes absolutely no sense.

              if you CAN buy your way into those schools, then I'm right about class in this country.

              pick one, like I said.

              This comment is dedicated to my mellow Adept2U and his Uncle Marcus

              by mallyroyal on Wed Dec 07, 2011 at 08:50:59 AM PST

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              •  Perhaps you don't see what I mean. (1+ / 0-)
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                Okay, who is of a higher social class:

                1. A Harvard educated man from the plata born into a family of landowners whose heritage dates back to the conquistadors, but who, as an adult, has lived on his trust fund to spend most of his time travelling between St. Tropez and Majorca.

                2. A Bahian man born in a slum who never knew his father but managed, through public schooling, to become the worlds most successful offshore drilling engineer.

                You'd probably think #2, but in reality, its #1.

                Yes, where you went to school is a greater factor than how much money you make, but a lesser factor than your social background. At least in the most elite circles of this country. Where people have horses and oil paintings of their ancestors. Like in Beverly Farms or Charlottesville.

                •  your antiquated notions of class continue to (0+ / 0-)

                  amuse me.

                  that the "well bred" spaniard is automatically of a higher status than the favela born brazilian in your eyes is especially hilarious.  

                  you gave me a hint earlier as to why you think this is the case too, when you mentioned your dad.

                  like I said, antiquated (probably british) notions of class.

                  This comment is dedicated to my mellow Adept2U and his Uncle Marcus

                  by mallyroyal on Wed Dec 07, 2011 at 11:51:37 AM PST

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