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  •  Let's not visit the irresponsibility of heedless (1+ / 0-)
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    parents and nothing-better-to-do teenagers on children.  THAT'S irresponsible.

    Those who forget the pasta are doomed to reheat it.

    by CarolinNJ on Wed Dec 07, 2011 at 12:58:50 PM PST

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    •  I was thinking that was pretty much implied, (0+ / 0-)

      because I am only talking about young girls. To my mind, 16 and 17 year olds are borderline on that. (Although that can easily be disputed.)

      •  Listen, the emotionally infantile and (3+ / 0-)
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        irresponsible people I grew up with were in their mid-thirties when I was born.  So, while I know the literature on young parenthood issues, I'm not buying that only the young struggle with parental responsibility issues, not the least of which is earning power.

        The problem really is that reproductive maturity evolved in a completely different environment than we now inhabit and we're sexually/physically at sometimes disastrous odds with the world we've created.  Our inability to acknowledge those disparities and deal with them realistically causes all kinds of serious problems.

        I am constantly amazed at how well provisioned we are, all reproductive species are, for the reproductive imperative.   Reproducing is a large part of any reproductive species' reason for being and past a certain point in the arousal process, it's brains off and we're limbic brained sex machines.  We're made that way.  It's a wonder, really, that teenagers, in hormonal overdrive, get anything else done.  Let's deal with that reality.  By prevention, preferably, or implantation prevention if necessary.  And stop lecturing about responsibility when time is short to be responsible.

        Those who forget the pasta are doomed to reheat it.

        by CarolinNJ on Wed Dec 07, 2011 at 01:26:56 PM PST

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        •  Reality yes, but where then does responsibility (0+ / 0-)

          come into it? I was taught responsibility was part of becoming an adult and being able to take care of one's self. All I'm saying, it that it needs to be included.

          •  Not at that juncture. Curb the impulse, because (5+ / 0-)

            it is an impulse and as a responsible adult, you should be able to make sound  prioritizing decisions, and get the immediate problem taken care of.  Triage, I believe it's called.  Prioritizing, in plain English.  

            After the exigent issue is dealt with, maybe the first question should be, "Did you really mean to get pregnant?  Think about it.  Consider the possibility that you meant to get pregnant."  Let the conversation flow from there.  The teenage mothers I know did mean to get pregnant.  Rightly considered, pregnancy isn't the underlying issue, it's just the emergency issue.  And no, responsibility isn't the issue, either.  Nothing to do, nowhere to go, no plans, boredom, uncaring and inattentive parents, abuse, support for early child bearing in the surrounding culture.  Possibilities are many.  What does responsibility even mean to a teenager raised in an irresponsible or an abusive or an early pregnancy supporting environment?  You and she don't speak the same language.

            Those who forget the pasta are doomed to reheat it.

            by CarolinNJ on Wed Dec 07, 2011 at 02:00:41 PM PST

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