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  •  DAVID WELNA responds to criticism (1+ / 0-)
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    mygreekamphora

    to his piece - not specifically to his "facts" that are not facts, as so thoroughly documented here.  

    Check it out: http://www.wnyc.org/...

    •  Just left a comment at his post (2+ / 0-)
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      AaronInSanDiego, DeminNewJ

      It hasn't appeared yet.  This is what I wrote:

      Hello Mr. Welna, I perhaps am not hearing the full scope of the criticism that your piece has generated.  The main critique I have seen is that the three items you state as facts in your piece are each false.  

      This is how you put it in your piece:

      "Fact No. 1: Last year, for the first time in its 75-year history, Social Security took in less money than it paid out.

      Fact No. 2: This year, the first of the baby boomers reached retirement age and began collecting Social Security benefits.

      Fact No. 3: The payroll tax holiday that Congress approved a year ago reduced Social Security's revenues this year by $105 billion."

      The following post (http://www.dailykos.com/...) would appear to demonstrate that the opposite is true.  Namely, I am quoting from the diarist, "Briefly, this is not the first year Social Security paid out more than it took in. This is not the first year baby boomers have collected retirement benefits. And no  the payroll tax holiday legislation did not and does not reduce Social Security's revenue."

      The great thing about blog posts is that we get to see links, and judge the veracity of factual claims made by the author.  Unfortunately, we don't get the same opportunity in radio.  

      Mr. Welna, would you please "show your work" on how you verified these three facts?  

      Perhaps you'd like to leave a comment and/or ask a question as well.  You can do so here

    •  Fascinating (0+ / 0-)

      So in this update we learn that:
      (1) Mr. Welna is a very important person since his reporting elicits angry calls from the White House and Senate Majority leaders office. Mission accomplished.  [frankly I admit that i am hurt he didn't even mention that he got me hopping mad too].

      (2) The point of the article was to remind people who thought maybe the President was about to achieve a political victory over Republicans that in fact both Democrats and Republicans oppose this policy. Get it. It's not the republican's fault (even though the only reason they object to it is because it would be good for the president). This is all about the politics of perception, not social security or whatever you call it. Game. Set. And match to Paul Krugman.

      (3) OK so even if the White House called Welna on his lost revenue bullshit, he gets to counter with the preposterous notion that since general revenues were transferred tot he Trust funds, no one can claim Social Security benefits are truly earned. Social Security just got bailed out you see. Wonder what happens when Welna realizes that the Trust Funds have been receiving revenue from the income taxation of Social Security benefits since 1983.

      There is so much more you could say, but in the end it is truly sad.

    •  Thanks (0+ / 0-)

      I posted a comment as well.  

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