Skip to main content

View Diary: Abbreviated Pundit Round-up: Obama rising amidst Mitt v Newt (44 comments)

Comment Preferences

  •  Ah, you know..... (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Floande, tb mare
    Their economic policy positions betray a hatred of most Americans (and would be ineffective), their foreign policy views are terrifying, and their take on social issues are clearly phony.

    You could say the same things about Bush, and he was a two termer.

    The revolution will not be privatized.

    by Bush Bites on Thu Dec 08, 2011 at 05:30:41 AM PST

    [ Parent ]

    •  Bush, the first time around, didn't campaign (0+ / 0-)

      on such a hate-based platform.  He was bumbling, true, but he didn't come across as contemptuous of the vast majority of Americans.  Here are some of the actual positions he campaigned on in 2000:

      reform Health Care so every family has access to affordable health insurance, and seniors have a choice of plans, including prescription drug coverage.

      strengthen Social Security, guaranteeing government is responsible for the promises it has made America’s seniors

      will order an immediate review of overseas deployments: no U.S. troops should be in harm’s way unless America’s interests are at stake
      link

      The GOP has veered so far right since 2000 that it's almost unrecognizable.

      Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it. --Mark Twain

      by SottoVoce on Thu Dec 08, 2011 at 05:45:27 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  OK, but he did win a second election... (0+ / 0-)

        ...when everybody knew what he was about.

        And, you know, I'm sure whoever gets the nomination will start candy coating the must repulsives parts of his believe system too.

        Repubs are good at that. Also, they know something that Dems don't seem to: Make something ambiguous enough, and people will believe what they want to believe.

        Bush was great at that. I remember his answers to choosing SCOTUS judges base on abortion during the Kerry debates:"There will be no litmus test" or his answer on letting the government buy drugs from Canada: "We'll look into it"

        You knew damn well what his positions were on both of those, but he threw enough sand up there that anybody who disagreed with him on those issues but was otherwise inclined to vote Repub would give him the benefit of the doubt.

        I'd expect a lot of that type of thing, especially from Ginghrich, who has no problem taking diametrically opposed positions in the same sentence; or Mitt, who's a chronic flip flopper.

        The revolution will not be privatized.

        by Bush Bites on Thu Dec 08, 2011 at 05:59:54 AM PST

        [ Parent ]

        •  Man, did I butcher that second paragraph. (1+ / 0-)
          Recommended by:
          SottoVoce

          Try again:

          And, you know, I'm sure whoever gets the nomination will start candy coating the most repulsive parts of his belief system too.

          The revolution will not be privatized.

          by Bush Bites on Thu Dec 08, 2011 at 06:07:54 AM PST

          [ Parent ]

        •  Everything you say is true. My point, though, (0+ / 0-)

          is that they are not hiding their most extremist views now.  They are celebrating them.  Look at the stuff the audiences have cheered at during the debates!  I'm in my 60s, and have never seen anything like this vicious extremist talk being not only considered mainstream, but celebrated.

          While they will probably try to walk back some of their most horrific stands, they have up to this point been eager to embrace them.  And for Romney, should he outlast Gingrich, this is particularly daunting.  He's already abandoned every single reasonable thing he's ever said or done, running at top speed away from his own record.  If he gets the nomination, will he be able to head back that way to win over the general public? I fail to see how he can accomplish it.

          Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it. --Mark Twain

          by SottoVoce on Thu Dec 08, 2011 at 06:08:28 AM PST

          [ Parent ]

          •  It'll be tougher for Mitt, I agree. (2+ / 0-)
            Recommended by:
            SottoVoce, desert rain

            He doesn't lie as convincingly as Newt does.

            And, yes, when Bush was around "instant replay" videos of politicians taking different positions weren't used by news outlets like they are now (Thank you, Jon Stewart).

            I guess we'll see.

            The revolution will not be privatized.

            by Bush Bites on Thu Dec 08, 2011 at 06:12:10 AM PST

            [ Parent ]

Subscribe or Donate to support Daily Kos.

Click here for the mobile view of the site