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  •  If she's pregnant, a reproductive decision has (3+ / 0-)
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    already been made, either by her, or by her partner if she was unwilling, so why can't she be allowed to make a second reproductive decision?

    A Wall Street "bonus" should not be more than what my house is worth.

    by bushondrugs on Thu Dec 08, 2011 at 04:39:11 AM PST

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    •  I wrote a lengthy comment below (0+ / 0-)

      on concerns I have about young girls being able to purchase Plan B over the counter. My comment above was about the idea that this was about women not being able to make their own decisions. These are two different issues and should be discussed separately. I welcome your comments regarding my concerns posted down thread. It is a complicated issue in my opinion.

      You can't scare me, I'm sticking to the Union - Woody Guthrie

      by sewaneepat on Thu Dec 08, 2011 at 04:54:35 AM PST

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      •  Not buying that arbitrary line (1+ / 0-)
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        you've drawn between a girl and a woman.

        What you propose is giving the parents of 'girl' who is on one side of that not-so-magical number '18' the ability to demand that she be forced to breed, which would make her the chattel property, i.e. a slave.

        So we'll no longer have children, then. Instead, we'll have slaves. 'Slaves for God,' I suppose.

        •  If you think there is no difference (1+ / 0-)
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          between a 12 to 16 year old girl and a woman, I suggest you read some developmental psychology,

          Do you feel the same about rape, that there should be no statutory rape? I doubt that you do. So if you think there is some arbitrary line between a younger girl and a 17 year old in the matter of consent to sex, then it is logical to think that a 12 to 16 year old cannot make health decisions by herself. Can she consent to other medical procedures or medicines without her parents?

          You can't scare me, I'm sticking to the Union - Woody Guthrie

          by sewaneepat on Thu Dec 08, 2011 at 09:56:31 AM PST

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          •  Yes, and it's totally irrelevant. (0+ / 0-)

            If adults forces a girl to breed, they're treating her just like slave. Full Stop.

          •  As for statutory rape, (1+ / 0-)
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            sex acts, consenting or non-consenting, have next to nothing to do with the personal decision to bear a child. The first may, unfortunately, not be her decision to make, the second is most certainly her decision to make, because the implications of denying the second are even more troubling than the damage from the first decision.

            •  Did you by chance see the news tonight? (0+ / 0-)

              about concerns about the birth control
              Yaz and Yazmin causing blood clots?  

              You can't scare me, I'm sticking to the Union - Woody Guthrie

              by sewaneepat on Thu Dec 08, 2011 at 06:51:11 PM PST

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              •  Chronic side effects are different from acute side (1+ / 0-)
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                effects.  I don't think you can draw a comparison between the two, since EC is used rarely and in one or two short doses.  Physiologically, this is a very different animal.

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