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  •  I think they have to project 10 years out. (1+ / 0-)
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    It's just the way they score these things.

    Anyway, Repubs threw a bunch of extras on the bill that's making it more expensive over time. And, of course, to replenish the money you lose to Social Security, you probably have to pay back over time.

    Anyway, if the whole thing sinks, I'd be fine with that. I'm not crazy about starving the Social Security trust fund.

    The revolution will not be privatized.

    by Bush Bites on Sat Dec 10, 2011 at 05:35:57 AM PST

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    •  It puts about $1000 bucks into (0+ / 0-)

      every worker's hands. Today. Even if that money comes out of SS, how could it possibly be a bad thing? Who needs the money more than working people (or the unemployed) during this recession?

      •  I know they already borrow the money... (0+ / 0-)

        ....but putting less in seems to me to be compounding the problem.

        Anyway, we won't agree on this. What can I say? I'm a "lock box" kind of guy on Social Security.

        The revolution will not be privatized.

        by Bush Bites on Sat Dec 10, 2011 at 06:07:12 AM PST

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        •  What's valuable is that the proposal has (1+ / 0-)
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          the GOP talking out of both sides of their mouth  and it's highlighted.
          The main point is that they will say anything to retain power. They can't be trusted.

          Whether the extension goes thru or doesn't, this is still the most salient political fact about the whole thing.

      •  Is the economy recovers, SS receipts go up? (0+ / 0-)

        Not to go all Laffer on people, but I wonder how much extra social security trust fund gets from an earlier end of the recession by itself

        (great, republicans say tax cuts pay for themselves now I am suggesting stimulus pays for itself.   And you wonder why I don't believe everything I think)

        Intelligent, passionate, perceptive people will always disagree, but we should not let that disagreement, however heartfelt, lead us to become deaf to those better angels of our nature.

        by Mindful Nature on Sat Dec 10, 2011 at 08:21:04 AM PST

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