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  •  LA was thought to be a successful eviction as well (6+ / 0-)

    and then the stories started to come out.

    I'll be curious what happens with this one... I do hope the arrests were managed peacefully.

    •  Many of the occupiers left earlier on their own (4+ / 0-)

      They were expecting arrests around midnight which didn't happen. Thursday night, there were about 1000 people present. The die-hard occupiers, the 46 arrested, informed the police that they planned to be arrested. There were several announcements and police informed the occupiers of their exact intentions throughout the process.

      No physical violence, no chemicals, no roughing-up of the occupiers.

      Although I haven't seen any video at the time of the arrests, at least one TV news reporter was present and indicated that there were no disruptive activities that went on whatsoever.

      On the other hand, I just heard that a couple more arrests are being made as of 7:15. Possibly a few occupiers were trying to get through the police barriers that are up during the cleanup process. The reporter isn't sure that this isn't just a discussion. We shall see.

      Boston planned for this. The occupiers were in close discussions with officials during the last few days.

      "All people are born alike - except Republicans and Democrats" - Groucho Marx

      by GrumpyOldGeek on Sat Dec 10, 2011 at 04:21:04 AM PST

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      •  I am very glad that the news cameras stayed. (4+ / 0-)

        I don't understand those places that have pushed the news crews out.

        •  They Don't Want Coverage Building Sympathy (1+ / 0-)
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          for the 99%. What's unclear about that?

          We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

          by Gooserock on Sat Dec 10, 2011 at 05:46:06 AM PST

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          •  And they are never sure (4+ / 0-)

            whether the police will act out, IMHO, and that they will catch the police brutality on camera.  With NYPD a least, it was not uncommon to see police officers pulling one of their colleagues off of a protester when they were out of control beating the crap out of a protester.  It looks to me like there are a lot of loose cannons who aren't used to being called on it.  Most of the time nobody is watching.

            •  No helmets, no riot gear, no chemicals (3+ / 0-)
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              The videos of the arrests are showing an extraordinarily peaceful and gentle eviction. The 46 who were arrested had planned to be arrested. They actually informed the police of their intent last Thursday night. Those who didn't want to go through the arrest process left before midnight, the original guess at when the police would do their thing. It turned out to be 5:00 am.

              Some of the cops didn't even wear their hats.

              "All people are born alike - except Republicans and Democrats" - Groucho Marx

              by GrumpyOldGeek on Sat Dec 10, 2011 at 06:32:49 AM PST

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        •  Looks like the media was sequestered again (4+ / 0-)

          according to boston.com on Twitter.  Boston police selected which media cameras would be allowed to be close enough to film.  Two pool cameras only.  They said they didn't want the media to interfere with the operation.  That's interesting.  I wonder what they meant by that.

          RT @BostonDotCom: Police worked to sequester most members of media away from area where the #OccupyBoston arrests were taking place http://t.co/...

          http://twitter.com/...

          Here is the news story linked in that tweet:

          Police defend handling of the media during Occupy arrests
          Boston police defended their handling of the media during the Occupy Boston raid early this morning, when most reporters of the media were not able to get a good view of arrests taking place.

          “We were making every accommodation for the press to make sure they did have an optimal vantage point when it came to covering the police action,” said Boston police spokesman Elaine Driscoll.

          As police entered the site, they forced most members of the media to stand on the sidewalk on Atlantic Avenue, on the outskirts of Dewey Square. A line of about a dozen uniformed officers stood between them and the square, where at least 46 people were arrested.

          [ ... ]

          She said two pool cameras were allowed closer to the action. A Globe photographer was one of those in the pool.

          •  They also got helicopter video (0+ / 0-)

            The video I'm watching are from 3 different TV outlets, one with a news helicopter. There are also shots from nearby buildings that captured the whole process.

            They just haven't been stored on permanent Internet records yet. The live shots and the video recordings show clearly that the media wasn't prevented from covering the event in any way. They weren't given more than a few minutes of advanced notification, but that didn't matter. At least two TV reporters have been permanently located near Dewey Square since Wednesday. They were reporting the eviction from the moment the police started to stage the troops.

            Unlike other cities and earlier arrests that occurred in Boston, this one was clearly very smooth and peaceful. Mayor Menino said that he wasn't going to allow any brutality whatsoever. He kept his word. No riot gear, helmets, clubs, pepper spray, etc.

            "All people are born alike - except Republicans and Democrats" - Groucho Marx

            by GrumpyOldGeek on Sat Dec 10, 2011 at 06:52:21 AM PST

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            •  Pool cameras (1+ / 0-)
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              have to share their footage, I think.  Just because it is on three different channels does not mean that their journalists were allowed in.  It probably means they were given access to the pool video.

              Unless boston.com is lying, they only let two pool cameras near enough to see the arrests, etc. happening.  It says right there in the news article that they kept all of the other journalists and cameras farther away and put a line of police between them and the park.

              Are you saying that the boston.com journalist is lying?

              •  The pool included AP and the Globe, afaik. (0+ / 0-)

                I have no doubt that the police kept a group of reporters out of the area. And they are pissed off. I would be, too.

                From what I've gathered, these reporters were across the street and a little bit down the block from the square. I don't think they were totally isolated from the action, but I'm not sure if they would have been able to zoom in from their vantage point. They weren't hustled out of the area, though. It still isn't right, imo.

                I've seen some of the pool videos. They aren't all that good because it was so dark and the square is a very small space. Tents and police bodies made it hard to see the occupiers who were sitting quietly on the ground.

                Some of the video I've seen hasn't been posted on the Internet yet. It's not the pool stuff. These arrests were expected and reporters have been on the scene nearly all week. Some of them had the foresight to plan for alternate camera locations. A couple of the TV videos were shot from above, probably from one of the nearby buildings or rooftops. These shots picked up a wider view of the square and the activity around it.

                Overall, these pictures show a peaceful and calm arrest process. Obviously, we don't have pictures of everything that happened. It would have helped if the additional reporters hadn't been held back. I can understand why the police decided to keep them out of the fray. I don't agree with their action, though. The pictures also show that they wouldn't have caused a problem for the police.

                "All people are born alike - except Republicans and Democrats" - Groucho Marx

                by GrumpyOldGeek on Sat Dec 10, 2011 at 08:34:23 AM PST

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                •  I find this interesting (0+ / 0-)

                  'keep them out of the fray.'

                  It is exactly why we have a free and independent press - to keep them in the fray. It's where we want them to be, reporting at the heart of these situations, not on the outskirts of them. Hell, we have imbedded reporters in Afghanistan... why can't we have them in Boston, etc.

                  •  Ask a silly question... (1+ / 0-)
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                    Because if the American people were exposed to images of heavily armed riot cops beating and abusing peaceful, white, working- and middle-class protesters - y'know, people who look like themselves - instead of American troops killing brown-skinned "turrists," they might actually start to question what's really going on in our government. And we mustn't have that.

                    Truth is the enemy of the powerful.

                    When are you going to understand that being normal is not necessarily a virtue? It rather denotes a lack of courage. - Practical Magic

                    by Keori on Sun Dec 11, 2011 at 07:22:38 AM PST

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        •  The Press was kettled here as well, angelajean (2+ / 0-)
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          boston.com


          Police defend handling of the media during Occupy arrests

          Boston police defended their handling of the media during the Occupy Boston raid early this morning, when most reporters of the media were not able to get a good view of arrests taking place.
        •  They didn't stay (1+ / 0-)
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          Press was pushed out of Dewey and across the street, and arrest wagons parked so as to block film crews from seeing what was going on inside the park. Only the one "police approved" photographer was allowed in. Those who tried to film were roughed up and had lights shined into their camera lenses to stop filming. Chris Faraone of the Boston Phoneix was told to get out or he'd be arrested. He had to have a "BPD issued" press pass to be there - BPD hasn't issued those in 8 years.

          Just because we weren't openly tear gassed doesn't mean civil rights violations didn't happen. There was, in fact, an LRAD present on Atlantic Avenue, though it was not used. BPD was ready to incite a riot, just like last time.

          When are you going to understand that being normal is not necessarily a virtue? It rather denotes a lack of courage. - Practical Magic

          by Keori on Sat Dec 10, 2011 at 12:32:55 PM PST

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    •  angelajean, I'm waiting to hear (2+ / 0-)
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      from some people on the ground about how peaceful it was and how the protesters were treated.

      I know they were well prepared.

      •  We were indeed peaceful (0+ / 0-)

        As always. The only violence in this movement has ever come from the government.

        The police came in and arrested first our media team, and then legal observers.

        As for how people were treated by police after getting arrested, you would have to ask UnaSpenser. She was released earlier this afternoon. I will see her tonight at GA, no doubt.

        When are you going to understand that being normal is not necessarily a virtue? It rather denotes a lack of courage. - Practical Magic

        by Keori on Sat Dec 10, 2011 at 12:37:16 PM PST

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