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  •  You are so right, but to paraphrase (6+ / 0-)

    a GOP detractor (and no, I can't remember who at the moment or where I read it)..."Newt has 1,000 ideas and the attention span of a one year old."

    Of course this is appealing to the Foxbots, Dittoheads, Baggers and other assorted GOP wingers, but for those in his party who know him or have worked with him, i.e., Joe Scarborough, Newt is toxic.

    May the forces of evil become confused on the way to your house. George Carlin

    by msmacgyver on Sun Dec 11, 2011 at 02:54:01 PM PST

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    •  But those in the party who have worked with (1+ / 0-)
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      Newt only get one vote each, whereas, they have enlisted legions of Foxbots, Dittoheads and Teabaggers who are ready to cast their vote at the most ginormous Obama basher in the field.  They are reaping what they have sown, and apparently, what they have sown looks like Newt.  Who woulda thunk it?

      And it feels like I'm livin'in the wasteland of the free ~ Iris DeMent, 1996

      by MrJersey on Sun Dec 11, 2011 at 04:05:39 PM PST

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      •  You are so right, "Who woulda (0+ / 0-)

        thunk it?"

        I'm going to assume that the less insane wing of the GOP will have a heavy hand in making very sure that Newt doesn't get the nomination.  GOPers can't win if they don't cheat and it is not beyond the back roomers to get Romney nominated.

        I also don't believe that Newt wants to be President.  At one time, yes, but not now.

        May the forces of evil become confused on the way to your house. George Carlin

        by msmacgyver on Sun Dec 11, 2011 at 04:12:43 PM PST

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        •  No way does Newt now not want to be President. (3+ / 0-)
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          My concern is not to derail the Newtster's nomination. Though I'm certainly no Romney aficionado, paired with a Tea Party conservative VP running mate, Romney could be trouble. Huntsman, now only a shadow, would have been the most trouble in the general.

          So we should want Newt ... for as much as he will keep the GOP faithful - or most of them - Newt will alienate everyone else.

          He's clever to the point of being glib. Most important, he talks TOO MUCH, he doesn't know when to stop talking and he likes the clever sum-it-up phrase. Those outporings will seal his doom once the press has the leisure to do point/counterpoint against (1) Newt's positions and record while in Congress, (2) his ethical meanderings, (3) followups with today's professional Republicans who do not like him (they may try to blunt their views if Newt becomes the nominee, but that'll be hard for them), (4) the artful dodging Newt & Co. did RE lobbying and his huge emoluments for non-lobbying, (5) analysis by others who do know what they re talking about, whenever Newt says anything like his inane Palestine comment.

          Watch the White House sit this out and let experts take Newt on. And there are a lot of people "who knew Newt when" and will have a field day being entertained by the press looking for background.

          Obama and strong Democratic majorities in 2012!

          by TRPChicago on Sun Dec 11, 2011 at 04:43:24 PM PST

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          •  Right you are on all points except (1+ / 0-)
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            maybe his wanting to be President.  He didn't get into this to win.  He's a greedy opportunist and enjoys being on the outside lobbing his verbal grenades and laughing all the way to the bank.

            I also think he is lazy and undisciplined and of all the candidates, he really does know that being President is hard work.

            Gingrich is toxic on so many levels that if he does manage to get the nomination, it's going to be a train wreck for the GOPers.

            May the forces of evil become confused on the way to your house. George Carlin

            by msmacgyver on Sun Dec 11, 2011 at 05:55:32 PM PST

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            •  At the outset, maybe Newt didn't think he had... (1+ / 0-)
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              ... a chance, so Yes, I can agree with you. I think he started as he did to keep his resume current and lure a good book of business to his lucrative consultancy/ lobbying firm. Going abroad on that ill-timed vacation cruise which cost him top staff members in three key early states proves your point. (Newt, as Atlas, shrugged at what would be a body blow for anyone else.) True, Newt and the plastic Callista remain on their book signing and speechifying circuit, but it still coincides with publicity and fund-raising.

              So far in 2011, all the GOP contenders' campaigns are Fools Errands. Hyped incessantly by Fox News with snippets distributed far and wide by networks too threadbare to afford much campaign coverage of their own. Advanced by a dozen so-called "debates" filled with goofs and gotchas and vacuousness. Minimal ground organization required for any candidate. (Exception: Mitt Romney.) Boodles of money going around, more to curry favor and plant seed corn for the candidates in his/her other lives than to advance a serious presidency. Contrary to Diane Sawyer's inexplicable fawning compliments at the ABC debate, no great sacrifices have been required of candidates at this stage except sleep foregone and travel to odd places.

              But now, I think Newt's drunk his own Kool Aid. The early poll results are so over the top that he can now afford to get serious. (Besides, what's the risk? His celebrity increases, win or lose.)

              Newt Gingrich is a born bloviator. The Presidency is the bulliest pulpit in the world. People must listen to him!

              THAT gig is the pinnacle - power, glory and sycophants abounding. You get to name hundreds and oversee thousands of people who could be in your debt. You are the most coddled and protected person in the world, the most studied in your time, the most waited-upon. There have been only 44 of you in over 200 years. You get to preside over history, not just speak about it.

              Yes, I agree with you that Newt is undisciplined but he would have a lot of people doing "his work." (Remember George The Decider.) As for grenade-throwing, as Presider in Chief, imagine what Newt could do to people and programs he didn't like. Worse, give him a compliant Congress for programs he does want, and ...

              No, the Newster is in it now for serious. And train wreck, it will surely be.

              Obama and strong Democratic majorities in 2012!

              by TRPChicago on Sun Dec 11, 2011 at 09:09:45 PM PST

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              •  In addition to your being able to (0+ / 0-)

                sum it all up in a way that makes complete sense, you are one of the most entertaining writers on DK.

                As for grenade-throwing, as Presider in Chief, imagine what Newt could do to people and programs he didn't like. Worse, give him a compliant Congress for programs he does want, and ...

                I'm paraphrasing a quote from one of Newt's detractors (name forgotten at the moment as well as the source) and I've posted it before, but here goes..."Newt has a thousand ideas and the attention span of a one year old."

                It's difficult for me to imagine that this man who was second in line of Presidential succession failed so miserably as a leader and ousted so dishonorably would actually be in contention for the presidency.  We live in interesting times.

                May the forces of evil become confused on the way to your house. George Carlin

                by msmacgyver on Sun Dec 11, 2011 at 09:34:09 PM PST

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        •  In normal times, your theory as outlined here (1+ / 0-)
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          I'm going to assume that the less insane wing of the GOP will have a heavy hand in making very sure that Newt doesn't get the nomination.

          would hold great sway, however, these are not normal times and to be sure, I am not sure that the "less insane wing" is all that big within the Republican party.  Given that the numbers for the "less insane" Republicans (Romney and Huntsman) have been much less than the total for the completely batshit insane candidates (all of the rest), so methinks that the extremely few relatively sane voices within the party have really lost control of who will eventually be nominated.  The difference is the rhetoric of Obama hatred which is really bringing Republican insanity to a frothy rip tide that is beyond the control of the back roomers and deal makers to manipulate.  Added to that, Newt really wants that ride on Air Force One again, only this time, he wants to sit in the Oval Cabin and snub other people.  

          And it feels like I'm livin'in the wasteland of the free ~ Iris DeMent, 1996

          by MrJersey on Sun Dec 11, 2011 at 10:12:32 PM PST

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          •  The Obama Derangement Syndrome (1+ / 0-)
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            which spawned the Baggers has been, at least temporarily, replaced by the Search for the Messiah and these people cannot keep two ideas in their mind at the same time.

            In no way, shape or form does Gingrich fit the "conservative" mold the RW has carved out to define "their" candidate.    

            As you say, these aren't normal times, but the RW was also batshit anti-Clinton hyped up by Rush primarily and he was certifiably commitable by the time Clinton was re-elected.

            If we are speculating about Newt's lust for revenge and payback and his chance to sit wherever the hell he wants to on Air Force One, think how very motivated whoever is left in the Less-Crazy-GOP are as they see his poll numbers climb.

            May the forces of evil become confused on the way to your house. George Carlin

            by msmacgyver on Mon Dec 12, 2011 at 06:58:50 AM PST

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