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  •  That's how to do it! (17+ / 0-)

    Exactly what you said:

    "OCCUPY the Capitol and have a citizen lobbyist at all times in every Congress critter's office. Hmm, that came off the top of my head - but, y'know, why not? Surely doable with a rotation of volunteers (raises hand), churches to sleep in and modest meal per diems."

    A citizen lobbyist in EVERY Congressmember's office.  And one in every Senator's office.  Total number of people required, less than 600.  That should be easy!

    Rotate volunteers?  Actually I'm not so sure that's a good idea, it adds up to 1200 people at minimum, multiplying the costs and logistics of accommodations and such, but none the less.  Let's see how the numbers work out for 600 people:

    Sleep in churches? Sure: 50 people in each of 12 churches.  Surely there are 12 progressive churches within public transport distance of Congress.  

    Modest per-diems?  Assume $25 per person per day to cover meals and transportation, for 600 people.  That's $15,000 per day.  Ten days of this add up to about $150,000 if you factor in the need for per-diems over the weekend.  

    Fund raising goal:  $150,000 to send 600 people to Washington for ten days.

    WE can do this!

    "Minus one vote for the Democrat" equals "plus one vote for the Republican." Arithmetic doesn't care about your feelings.

    by G2geek on Sat Dec 10, 2011 at 09:29:32 PM PST

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    •  We can and we need to. The last phone conference (12+ / 0-)

      (McKibben and 350.org) had about 1000 people listening in, hearing reports from group meetings across the country about "where do we go from here, nationally and locally."  This may be the national action to push for.

      “Wall Street owns the country. Our laws are the output of a system which clothes rascals in robes and honesty in rags. The parties lie to us, and the political speakers mislead us.” - Mary Elizabeth Lease, 1890. It's late. Occupy everywhere.

      by DawnN on Sat Dec 10, 2011 at 09:36:41 PM PST

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      •  Good ideas. My 15yo cat's telling me it's time (8+ / 0-)

        to get some sleep.

        I'll check back in the morning.

        look for my eSci diary series Thursday evening.

        by FishOutofWater on Sat Dec 10, 2011 at 09:44:36 PM PST

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      •  OK, time to bug McKibben to do this. (11+ / 0-)

        He has 1000 people on a phone conference (hot damn!, I'd like to know what kind of tech he's using for that!), that's more than enough to get 600 volunteers.

        Thing is, the volunteers have to be screened and vetted, and properly trained.  This is not the place for "accepting anyone who comes along," including people who are basically incapacitated or who have other agendas.  

        So in effect this project will entail building up a group of people who can do this task and do it properly.  Some of them will also need to have their transportation costs covered.  They should ideally come from the districts of the Congressmembers whose office they'll be occupying for the ten-day duration.

        And also, this is not the place for "kids v. cops" digressions.  Per your original proposal, occupy their office while they're open: from the moment they open in the morning to the moment they close in the evening, and then go get dinner and sleep in the church and get up and do it again the next day.  Just walk in and ask the secretary for an appointment, and then sit there all day waiting to talk with whoever-it-is and with whoever else comes to the office that day for whatever business.  

        It's possible that the per-diem costs can be reduced by providing breakfasts and dinners in the churches, but be prepared to accommodate omnivores and vegans alike at both meals (vegan meals will work for vegetarians).  (And no dumpster-diving or using "expired" stuff for cheap food: good food sanitation is essential, we do not want our volunteers tied up with diarrhea for the duration!)

        The logistics of this should be organized well in advance by people with experience doing such things.  

        There is also a need for major publicity outreach in the run-up to the event: also carried out by people with relevant experience and current contacts.  

        If it's done right, it will go like choreography and will generate a major buzz in the media.

        One really important message to get across is that science doesn't give a shit about excuses or ideology.  Facts are facts, and wishing them away doesn't work.  Climate denialism is like complaining about gravity when you fall off a ladder: complaining doesn't make gravity go away.  Etc. etc., I'm sure there are people out there who can come up with plenty of good ways to make this arguement.

        There will be no progress on climate in the US until the population is back on track with the idea that scientifically established facts can't be evaded, avoided, or escaped from, so educating the public on this point is essential.  Use the "Cartesian dodge" if needed:  "science deals with nature and the material world; religion deals with God, the hereafter, and the spiritual life; we are not here to debate religion, we are here to educate the public about science."  

        "Minus one vote for the Democrat" equals "plus one vote for the Republican." Arithmetic doesn't care about your feelings.

        by G2geek on Sat Dec 10, 2011 at 10:01:59 PM PST

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        •  McKibben's small but awesome staff have been doing (8+ / 0-)

          a pretty good line in training, so far. They held one in CT this weekend and plan to continue.

          I do think this is worth bringing up to him - although he may well be all over it already (I think is superpower is that he needs no sleep.)

          “Wall Street owns the country. Our laws are the output of a system which clothes rascals in robes and honesty in rags. The parties lie to us, and the political speakers mislead us.” - Mary Elizabeth Lease, 1890. It's late. Occupy everywhere.

          by DawnN on Sat Dec 10, 2011 at 10:20:53 PM PST

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          •  Excellent! Bring it up! (4+ / 0-)
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            If you have any channels to reach him, do it.

            You've got a great idea there; others can fill in the details; then you or someone who has a way to reach him can get in touch and put it on his radar and persuade him to do it.  

            $150K is actually a pretty modest fundraising goal, and that will make this happen.  Shoot for $200K to be sure, and keep the surplus for the next round.  

            The people who participate in this can then go on to the next stage, serving as local organizers in their areas, and keeping up a presence in their local Congressmember's and Senators' offices.  

            One possible goal to aim for: doing this next summer or at a time when schools & colleges have breaks.  But in any case it needs to happen before October or so, when the dynamics of the election will be heating up in the media.  

            "Minus one vote for the Democrat" equals "plus one vote for the Republican." Arithmetic doesn't care about your feelings.

            by G2geek on Sat Dec 10, 2011 at 10:35:36 PM PST

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    •  We could do this w/state gov'ts too (3+ / 0-)
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      There are some states like Massachusetts where democrats have a supermajority. We should push ahead with the strongest clean energy action possible at the state and local levels.

      This will definitely strengthen our hand nationally. Take the California EPA standards for cars which led to Obama raising fuel efficiency standards nationally.

      "Poor man wanna be rich, Rich man wanna be King, and the King ain't satisfied till he rules everything." Bruce Springsteen.

      by Johnnythebandit on Sun Dec 11, 2011 at 03:24:12 AM PST

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