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    If activists on the left are screwing blue-collar union workers out of paychecks in a city that is, let's be quite honest here, blighted by underemployment, the 99% seems to be perfectly willing to do the dirty work of the 1% without them having to lift a finger.

    I support the overarching goals of the movement, but I don't understand the point of shutting down the ports, where members of the 99% work, where goods that families (most of them being in the 99%) intend to buy enter the state. Is the goal of Occupy now to shut down the U.S. economy right before Christmas? Because I can't support that at all. And I can't support people who aren't just members of the 99%, but in many cases are in the lowest quartile of the 99%, not getting their full day's pay because some activists make their work situation untenable, then have the gall to say they're doing what's best for them "even if they don't know it".

    Democrat, OR-01 native, Swingnut for life, and keeper of the DKE glossary.

    by SaoMagnifico on Mon Dec 12, 2011 at 01:48:46 PM PST

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    •  Even better (6+ / 0-)

      Let's bring the manufacture of those goods back to the U.S. where they were before.

      It's win-win. We get to buy stuff and our fellow Americans who used to make that stuff will get their jobs back.

      Maybe you live on one of the coasts, but for those of us living in the flyover states, the loss of manufacturing jobs here has been profound and stunning.

      "I'll believe corporations are people when Texas executes one."

      by Betty Pinson on Mon Dec 12, 2011 at 02:05:09 PM PST

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      •  I do (1+ / 0-)
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        We have manufacturing in Oregon, too. But there's not enough of it.

        That being said, we're a country on two oceans (well, three, technically) and not all of the goods coming into Portland and Tacoma and Oakland and Long Beach are being imported from abroad. And some of the goods are outgoing, too. Every day they sit in a shipping container hurts local businesses; some of them, like Intel and Apple, are gargantuan MNCs, and some of them, some of the small farms and fisheries, some of the small canneries, could really use the money.

        We do need to bring manufacturing back to the States. I think that should be a top priority. It's disappointing that the Clinton administration and then the Bush administration went on an outsourcing binge after the fall of the Iron Curtain; we're still hurting from that today.

        But I don't see how punishing blue-collar dockworkers and exporters two weeks before Christmas helps us reverse those policies.

        Democrat, OR-01 native, Swingnut for life, and keeper of the DKE glossary.

        by SaoMagnifico on Mon Dec 12, 2011 at 02:12:28 PM PST

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        •  Spent most of my career in shipping (2+ / 0-)
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          Sure, it would be easier if dockworkers and draymen weren't sitting idle, but that's a decision our own political leaders need to make - keeping rewarding companies who ship jobs overseas or fix the US economy and bring jobs back.

          It's their decision, its Obama's decision, not the protestors.

          "I'll believe corporations are people when Texas executes one."

          by Betty Pinson on Mon Dec 12, 2011 at 02:32:48 PM PST

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