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  •  I hear you, but suggest an alternative (1+ / 0-)
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    A Siegel

    First, I agree with you on a number of points, and I completely understand the impetus to violence given the dire nature of the problem.  

    However, I would argue that we do ourselves a favor by not letting our minds go there, even though the rage is genuine and justified.  Here we do have an option to create solutions without violence (even if there is a justification), and for our own sakes we should imagine those and avoid making ourselves unhappy by feeding our own anger.  I don't know about you, but it always feels to me that I get a flush of gratification from imagining such things and then feel hungover, just from envisioning it.  YMMV

    Second, as you say, the key is to create positive change.  There are ways to do things that do not harm the planet (as much).  For my part, I am fortunate enough to be able to obtain 100% renewable energy where I live, so I do.  I can contribute to people working to change things.  I can even do my own work to try to create (in my case) zero carbon buildings.  All of that requires a positive vision, and change requires convincing people, which violence will not do.

    Believe me, I've run this argument through my head many times.

    •  the longer we wait, the fewer options remain. (0+ / 0-)

      The "nice" options go away first, leaving only the ugly and uglier options remaining.

      I'm not advocating, I'm predicting, based on decades of reading what an awful lot of smart people have to say about the consequences of population overshoot of resources.

      And in terms of what I do advocate, I've probably posted more specific proposals for creative nonviolent action than anyone else on this site.  

      "Minus one vote for the Democrat" equals "plus one vote for the Republican." Arithmetic doesn't care about your feelings.

      by G2geek on Tue Dec 13, 2011 at 02:49:25 PM PST

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