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  •  Please don't come into threads... (3+ / 0-)
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    To complain about how President Obama is a "corporatist" and boost a Republican Party candidate for president.

    Democrat, OR-01 native, Swingnut for life, and keeper of the DKE glossary.

    by SaoMagnifico on Tue Dec 13, 2011 at 02:19:36 PM PST

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    •  I tried voting for a Democrat... (0+ / 0-)

      ...I ended up with another Republican.

      I didn't leave the Democratic Party. It left me.

      Labels have little meaning at this point, when Democrat means Republican and Republican means Christofascist. I'm sick of being dragged kicking and screaming to the right while some of you sit around and bitch about party loyalty. Screw that.

      Further, I believe that my support for Ron Paul in the Republican primaries is different than supporting him against Obama in the general, although if by some stretch of the imagination Paul were to become the GOP nominee, he'd by definition be riding a wave of populist support that this country hasn't seen in quite some time. If he were to split the difference and run as a third-party candidate, I'd probably support that too, because I can't, not in good conscience, vote for Obama again, and I'd rather vote for breaking the stranglehold of the Democratic/Republican duopoly on this country's politics. If it's Obama against anybody else currently vying for the GOP nod, I'll see how the polling plays out here in South Carolina as to whether I vote or not. If it were close, I'd hold my breath to avoid a Newt.

      This whole devotion to the Democratic Party thing is sure starting to wear thin. You can defend it if you want...I know it's the site's policy. But if the direction of the party isn't a viable subject for discussion a site dedicated to promoting that party's candidates, I don't know what is.

      -5.38 -4.72 T. Atlas shrugged. Jesus wept.

      by trevzb on Tue Dec 13, 2011 at 03:37:14 PM PST

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      •  so you vote for Paul and the Repub nominee wins (0+ / 0-)

        and somehow this is better than President Obama and a Democratic congress?  Are you seriously suggested we would be better off with President McCain and VP Palin now? What is your point exactly? that purity voting makes you feel better?  Did you agree with Nader that there was NO DIFFERENCE between Gore and Bush?  How did that work out?  I know the Dems can be infuriating but they are still a million times better than the Repubs.  If you can't see that I cannot help you.

        •  If Paul is not the GOP nominee (0+ / 0-)

          then it doesn't really matter whether I voted for him in the primary or not, does it? Neither does it affect Obama, although I'm sure some down-ballot races might interest me enough to vote in the Dem primary, whenever it is.

          No, I don't think McCain/Palin would have been better than Obama, but with an oppositional Congress instead of one that claims to be on your side and then screws you over, McCain might have had a tougher time implementing GOP policies than Obama has.

          I did vote for Nader, but that was because in South Carolina, where I live, there was little point in voting for Gore. He wasn't going to win, so I supported a third option. This was also before Gore became a dynamic human communicator, when he was still a stiff from the centrist Clinton administration.

          Like I said, if Paul wins the nomination somehow, all bets are off...something very big would be happening, at that point.

          -5.38 -4.72 T. Atlas shrugged. Jesus wept.

          by trevzb on Wed Dec 14, 2011 at 09:08:30 PM PST

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