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  •  that is patently ridiculous (0+ / 0-)
      •  Ok, I'll bite and ask the question I should (0+ / 0-)

        have asked initially.  What is your evidence that Paul is more electable than Gingrich?   You provided none in your comment.  When you give me your rationale or evidence I can respond.  Thanks

        •  Paul will garner (1+ / 0-)
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          more Dem and Indy votes than Gingrich and will hold Republicans.

          In essence. for the same reason Romney is more electable.

          •  so there is polling data to support this? (0+ / 0-)

            I would suggest that the fundies would stay home and exhibit much less energy and volunteerism so essential to GOP success at the voting booth.

            At the same time, once Paul's extreme ideas were exposed to the light of day to "independents" they would flee him in droves to the President.

            and how many Dem votes would Paul really get in the actual election?  Maybe 0.5%?

            •  I have not looked for it (0+ / 0-)

              But it seems obvious to me.

              Do you know who Newt Gingrich is?

              As for the o/5% line, I'm assuming you're kidding.

              Paul's extreme ideas sound extreme to people who know what the Fed is, not so much to ignorant Americans.

              Don't get me wrong. Obama wallops Paul. But Gingirch gets it worse.

              •  I am serious about the number of Dem votes (0+ / 0-)

                Paul would get.  Gingrich gets more Repub votes since he is the one who went toe to toe with Clinton, even though he lost in the end.  he is their fantasy hero.  That and he sounds more intelligent and credible than Paul.

                Paul sounds crazy and he is.  Gingrich is intelligent and an effective demagogue.  he will say anything to get votes.  paul will not.

                once people here about what Paul thinks he would lose R, I and D voters in droves.  

                I guess we can just disagree on this.

                •  That's ridiculous (0+ / 0-)

                  How many Dem votes did Goldwater get in 64? If you are serious, then there is little for us to discuss.

                  I find this line from you hilarious - Gingrich is intelligent and an effective demagogue. "

                  No. He's not.

                  He'll be the worst candidate for President of my lifetime. He lose by the max (in today's world, that's probably 8 percent.).

                  •  the Democratic Party was very different (0+ / 0-)

                    in 1964 and the dixiecrats were afraid of LBJ and civil rights.

                    Those types of folks are Republicans for the most part now.

                    If Gingrich is not effective why is polling so far ahead of Paul in FL, SC etc and nationally?

                    Have there been polls of Obama v Paul?  The ones I have seen show Paul losing by much more than Gingrich.

                  •  really? Worse than Santorum? Fred Thompson? (0+ / 0-)

                    Rudy Giuliani?   Really?  Bachmann?  Trump?  Cain?

                    You are pretty funny.  You should work for Jon Stewart.

                    •  GE candidate genius (0+ / 0-)

                      Which is what we are talking about.

                      How about Buddy Roemer genius?

                      •  I thought you weren't going to respond (0+ / 0-)

                        any more?  And since neither Newt nor Paul has EVER been a GE candidate you have no idea what you are talking about and you provide no evidence or rationales.

                        Just unsupported assertions - any every time I ask a question or provide ideas/information you just say "wrong" or you change the subject to avoid the question.

                        Well since you are not going to respond to me anymore I guess that is it, except in your last post you said you weren't going to and then you did.  so, let me know.

                      •  and by the way (0+ / 0-)

                        Santorum got clobbered as in incumbent in his own home state by a relatively unknown milquetoast middle of the roader.

                        But he would be a better GE candidate than Newt?  Sure.

              •  I found one poll comparing (0+ / 0-)

                both Gingrich and Paul to the President.  We were both wrong by this poll - no difference

                NATIONAL (YouGov/Economist): Obama d. Romney (46-43); Obama d. Gingrich (48-39); Obama d. Paul (47-40)

                •  I'm talking about November (0+ / 0-)

                  not now.

                  Apparently you have no ability to consider what happens in full campaign.

                  •  well my view is that Ron Paul fares (0+ / 0-)

                    much worse in Nov than these numbers and that Gingrich fares somewhat better.

                    I would say Nov would be Obama 60 Paul 40

                    Obama 53 Gingrich 47

                    Paul does not hold up in the general once his extreme views are known.

                  •  by the way, I asked you if you had (0+ / 0-)

                    any polling data.  You didn't.,  I found some.  that does not mean I am not thinking about the eventual outcome. I stated that clearly many times before in this thread.  You made an assertion without data

                    I added some data (the only data available) and explained my view of the situation.

                    Please do not tell me I have no ability to do something I have already done

                    thank you

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