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  •  I believe (9+ / 0-)

    that it is certainly the case that there are multiple communities here within dk that certainly overlap.

    But, that doesn't alter the fact that there is this force (for lack of a better term at the moment) which subsumes all of those (and also makes them possible) and that force, amorphous though it may be is what we call "community".

    It is found in many places, in many actions and in many different kinds of emotional resonances, it seems to me.

    (An earlier version of this diary in which I did the personal testimonial trip through the dk community, gave a couple of very specific expressions and experiences of this amorphous-ever-changing-but-always-somehow-still-present-ness that no English language word could ever capture.  We'd have to Germanize it, I think in order to coin something)

    I don't mean to imply a hierarchy or any other kind of value structure, either, but I do see it as a kind of living force at work here.  That makes sense, I guess, since it is made up of us, and we are mostly living, though the memories of those who aren't are also still a part of all, too.

    Now I'm getting metaphysical, so I'll just stop while I'm more or less still ahead.

    Words can sometimes, in moments of grace, attain the quality of deeds. --Elie Wiesel

    by a gilas girl on Wed Dec 14, 2011 at 06:50:21 PM PST

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    •  Did you read Asimov's Foundation Trilogy? (4+ / 0-)
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      He later turned it into a quintology, and I seem to remember the fifth explored The Gaia Hypothesis where all the living creatures on on planets I evolved a collective consciousness, that became a living being at a planetary level, and we were all like cells in this "meta-being."

      Decades ago, I worked as a consultant to the director of global strategy of one of the largest oil companies of the world, who believed his corporations, along with many others have acheived the status of "living transpersonal beings," and our jobs as strategists were not to develop strategies, but rather to use the strategic planning process, (including techniques from scenario planning, systems thinking, organziational learning etc.) to catolize the organizations abilty to learn, think, and adapt faster than the competitive corporate beings, and the changing environments, and communites we existed in, in order to surivive, thrive, and acheive competitive advantage.

      I founded a company to take these ideas forward to everyplace that would listen.

      So not be concerned about getting too metaphyscial, or quiting while you are ahead.  Some of us are quitely so far out on this dimension, this hardly even seems like warming up, before the concert.

      ;-)

      The means is the ends in the process of becoming. - Mahatma Gandhi

      by HoundDog on Wed Dec 14, 2011 at 07:19:47 PM PST

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      •  Not a science fiction (4+ / 0-)
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        fan, I have to admit, much to the chagrin of the man to whom I was once married.

        So, no I've not read Asimov.  Guess his ideas seeped into the culture and my consciousness some other way.

        And no, these two graphs are not in any way related.

        ;^)

        Words can sometimes, in moments of grace, attain the quality of deeds. --Elie Wiesel

        by a gilas girl on Wed Dec 14, 2011 at 07:26:54 PM PST

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        •  I think you too have it covered pretty well ;-) (2+ / 0-)
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          from my experience it's pretty clear that life on earth is more than just our physical experience. I like the word "consciousness" - it's almost like an invisible cloud that we're all part of and can choose to tap into or not (and even if we don't we're still part of it, just unaware). When enough people tap into a certain consciousness it becomes archetypal, or mythical, meaning that there's a storyline everyone relates to even though it may be in different ways. Big generational archetypes would be things like "hippie" or "Hitler", whose mere mention evoke a certain "soul memory." Even though people may have different explanations and personal experiences with those archetypes, they evoke a collective energy that is experienced on a subliminal level. And so it is with Daily Kos, albeit on a smaller level, but those who are part of the Daily Kos consciousness experience it on a level that is beyond words, all our individual projections of it merged into one fountain of shared knowledge.

          Metaphysical enough? ;-)

          •  hey... (2+ / 0-)
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            it's past midnight where I am, all bet's are off on the metaphysical stuff by that point.  ;^)

            your thinking and riffing on consciousness gives me something more to ponder.  Thanks.

            Words can sometimes, in moments of grace, attain the quality of deeds. --Elie Wiesel

            by a gilas girl on Wed Dec 14, 2011 at 09:31:25 PM PST

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