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  •  Problem with your argument (1+ / 0-)
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    is that things have changed, some rights have been recognized in reality, not just a Platonic ideal. If you're gay and married, and can't recognize there was a time when you could not do that, best of luck lecturing others on believing in illusions.  :)

    There is no belief, however foolish, that will not gather its faithful adherents who will defend it to the death. -- Isaac Asimov

    by tytalus on Wed Dec 14, 2011 at 01:17:04 PM PST

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    •  Problem with YOUR argument... (0+ / 0-) that I was married to my partner for many, many, many, many, many years before the legal recognition of it was ENFORCED because of a constitutional GUARANTEE, by the court.

      There is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING platonic about my GUARANTEED rights. You, like so many other Americans, don't seem to comprehend that my rights are INALIENABLE and whether or not the government recognizes them or not DOESN'T CHANGE the FACT that they are inalienable.

      I am married whether the state or federal governments...or a bunch of Christian bigots...says so or not. My marriage isn't determined by a piece of paper issued by the government. The sooner people like you understand this FACT, the sooner my rights will be respected in every state. As it is, people like you want to believe the state determines such things when CLEARLY they do not.

      The big illusion for people like you is the one that doesn't allow you to see that a piece of paper from the government doesn't make or break a marriage. That's an illusion. That piece of paper has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with my marriage and everything to do with the benefits, protections, rights, and privileges of the laws surrounding marriage...but it doesn't "create" a marriage anymore than the easter bunny lays jelly beans.

      I'm not a Democrat or a Republican. I'm a socialist. - Bernie Sanders

      by MNW on Tue Dec 20, 2011 at 11:38:06 AM PST

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