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  •  But again, how does a report from 2005 (1+ / 0-)
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    and arguments made by the Bush regime relate to the facts of the current administration?  You are merely asserting that they are the same.  Furthermore, to the best of my knowledge no US citizen has been detained by this administration as enemy combatants.  In fact, I don't even know if they've detained foreigners as enemy combatants who have been arrested on US soil.  If you have such information, I would appreciate it.

    A process cannot be understood by stopping it. Understanding must move with the flow of the process, must join it and flow with it. --The First Law of Mentat

    by Troubadour on Thu Dec 15, 2011 at 03:52:15 PM PST

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    •  what is this a treasure hunt???? (0+ / 0-)

      http://www.thedailybeast.com/...

      or are you just being contrary....?

      The goal is not to bring your adversaries to their knees but to their senses. -- Mahatma Gandhi

      by Mindmover on Thu Dec 15, 2011 at 07:08:06 PM PST

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      •  That refers to *prosecutions*. (1+ / 0-)
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        What the hell do you think we're talking about here?

        A process cannot be understood by stopping it. Understanding must move with the flow of the process, must join it and flow with it. --The First Law of Mentat

        by Troubadour on Thu Dec 15, 2011 at 10:25:42 PM PST

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        •  I am simply trying to answer your own stupid (0+ / 0-)

          questions which I will stop doing because I do not think you understand your own writing.....

          Furthermore, to the best of my knowledge no US citizen has been detained by this administration as enemy combatants.  In fact, I don't even know if they've detained foreigners as enemy combatants who have been arrested on US soil.  If you have such information, I would appreciate it.

          The paragraphs below come from the link provided....

          "The list of 25 U.S. citizens who have been charged with such offenses in the last 18 months was compiled and provided to NEWSWEEK by a U.S. law-enforcement official, who requested not to be identified because it is not an official government publication and is not meant to be exhaustive. “These cases clearly suggest that an increasing number of U.S. citizens, both native-born Americans and naturalized citizens, appear to be getting involved in the terrorist cause. It’s not an encouraging trend,” said a Justice Department official who asked for anonymity when discussing sensitive information."

          "The official who provided the recent information said he did not have such statistics broken down by citizenship for terrorism prosecutions during the George W. Bush administration, and a search of government and academic sources did not turn up comparable figures. By one comparison, in the 18 months before Barack Obama took office, the Department of Justice prosecuted 35 terrorism cases against all suspects—both American citizens and foreign nationals—according to DOJ information released to the Transactional Records Access Clearinghouse at Syracuse University (PDF)."

          I know now that you just want to verbally abuse because you think you have some power in this blog.....guess again.....

          The goal is not to bring your adversaries to their knees but to their senses. -- Mahatma Gandhi

          by Mindmover on Thu Dec 15, 2011 at 10:46:36 PM PST

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          •  Do you understand that we're talking about (1+ / 0-)
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            enemy combatant detentions, not terrorism prosecutions in court?

            A process cannot be understood by stopping it. Understanding must move with the flow of the process, must join it and flow with it. --The First Law of Mentat

            by Troubadour on Thu Dec 15, 2011 at 11:00:23 PM PST

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            •  ....... (0+ / 0-)
              In the United States on March 13, 2009 the Obama administration announced its abandonment of the Bush administration's use of the term "enemy combatant".

              The goal is not to bring your adversaries to their knees but to their senses. -- Mahatma Gandhi

              by Mindmover on Thu Dec 15, 2011 at 11:16:13 PM PST

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              •  Do you or do you not (1+ / 0-)
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                have any information about instances of detention without trial occurring with suspects first taken into custody under this administration?  If you don't, then just say that and no harm no foul - it doesn't disprove your argument, it just means neither of us knows of such cases.

                A process cannot be understood by stopping it. Understanding must move with the flow of the process, must join it and flow with it. --The First Law of Mentat

                by Troubadour on Thu Dec 15, 2011 at 11:53:54 PM PST

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