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  •  Sure, then make that case. (0+ / 0-)

    I have no problem with people saying that our footprint there is way too large, and that it raises a whole host of questions about our role, the expenses, etc.

    But these contractors are bodyguards.  They are not going to be engaging in combat.

    "[R]ather high-minded, if not a bit self-referential"--The Washington Post.

    by Geekesque on Thu Dec 15, 2011 at 03:28:50 PM PST

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    •  Define combat engagement (5+ / 0-)
      But these contractors are bodyguards.  They are not going to be engaging in combat.

      If someone attacks U.S. State department personnel, they're going to engage the attackers. Unless, of course, they initiate it on civilians like, say, in Nisour Square?

      Yes, they're not going out on military patrols like the U.S. troops did, but then the U.S. troops had stopped doing that on August 31, 2010.

      ABC: Obama: 'By Aug. 31, 2010, Combat Mission in Iraq Will End'

      "America's men and women in uniform have fought block by block, province by province, year after year, to give the Iraqis this chance to choose a better future. Now, we must ask the Iraqi people to seize it," he said.

      "Let me say this as plainly as I can: By Aug. 31, 2010, our combat mission in Iraq will end," Obama said, triggering applause from the Marines.

      If not engaging in combat defines the end of the war, then the war ended a year ago last August.

    •  Nuts (12+ / 0-)

      Well, that is the case being made. The US troops were still there largely to ensure the protectiong of American interests as the burden of security went from US/Iraqi to private/Iraqi. The larger the official US footprint, the more Americans with guns there will be. Part and parcel of questioning the reality of the "end" of this war is the degree to which we are still there. The two pieces are inseparable and whether someone attacks it from the mercenaries side or the side of the people/commodities they're there to protect, it's all the same exact system.

      As far as the mercenaries acting as "bodyguards", I don't trust them or their judgment. A lot of "bodyguards" have killed a lot of innocent people already.

      So, nuts to all that...

      it fitfully blows, half conceals, half discloses

      by Addison on Thu Dec 15, 2011 at 03:51:05 PM PST

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