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  •  I suggest you read my comment (0+ / 0-)

    instead of trying to score cheap, dishonest points.

    It's perfectly valid to argue (3+ / 0-)
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    that the large number of armed bodyguards raises a whole host of problems.

    Not all things that are problematic are war.

    "[R]ather high-minded, if not a bit self-referential"--The Washington Post.

    by Geekesque on Thu Dec 15, 2011 at 05:00:47 PM PST

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    •  I relinquish the cheap and dishonest corner (2+ / 0-)
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      truong son traveler, pot

      ...to you.

      After all, you staked a claim on it a long time ago.


      Give a man a gun and he can rob a bank. Give a man a bank and he can rob the world. Nationalize the bastards.

      by Pluto on Thu Dec 15, 2011 at 05:03:07 PM PST

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      •  Do you have anything besides (0+ / 0-)

        substance-free sneering to contribute?

        Otherwise,  you're dismissed.

        "[R]ather high-minded, if not a bit self-referential"--The Washington Post.

        by Geekesque on Thu Dec 15, 2011 at 05:06:38 PM PST

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        •  How about this? (6+ / 0-)

          Warnings Unheeded On Guards In Iraq
          Despite Shootings, Security Companies Expanded Presence
          By Steve Fainaru, Washington Post Foreign Service
          Monday, December 24, 2007; A01

          The U.S. government disregarded numerous warnings over the past two years about the risks of using Blackwater Worldwide and other private security firms in Iraq, expanding their presence even after a series of shooting incidents showed that the firms were operating with little regulation or oversight, according to government officials, private security firms and documents.
          ...
          Last year, the Pentagon estimated that 20,000 hired guns worked in Iraq; the Government Accountability Office estimated 48,000.
          ...
          The Defense Department has paid $2.7 billion for private security since 2003, according to USA Spending, a government-funded project that tracks contracting expenditures; the military said it currently employs 17 companies in Iraq under contracts worth $689.7 million. The State Department has paid $2.4 billion for private security in Iraq -- including $1 billion to Blackwater -- since 2003, USA Spending figures show.
          ...
          The State Department's reliance on Blackwater expanded dramatically in 2006, when together with the U.S. firms DynCorp and Triple Canopy it won a new, multiyear contract worth $3.6 billion. Blackwater's share was $1.2 billion, up from $488 million, and the company more than doubled its staff, from 482 to 1,082. From January 2006 to April 2007, the State Department paid Blackwater at least $601 million in 38 transactions, according to government data.

          The company developed a reputation for aggressive street tactics. Even inside the fortified Green Zone, Blackwater guards were known for running vehicles off the road and pointing their weapons at bystanders, according to several security company representatives and U.S. officials.

          Based on insurance claims there are only 25 confirmed deaths of Blackwater employees in Iraq, including the four killed in Fallujah.  You might care to contrast that with the 17 Iraqis killed on September 16th alone.  Then there are the 3 Kurdish civilians in Kirkuk on February 7th of 2006.  And the three employees of the state-run media company and the driver for the Interior Ministry.

          And then, on Christmas Eve 2006, a Blackwater mercenary killed the body guard of Iraqi Vice President Adil Abdul-Mahdi while drunk at a Christmas party (the mercenary, not the guard or Vice President Abdul-Mahdi who were both presumably observant Muslims and no more likely to drink alcohol than Mitt Romney to drink tea).

          Sort of makes all those embarrassing passes you made at co-workers and the butt Xeroxes at the office party seem kind of trivial, now doesn't it?

          So that makes it even at 25 apiece except I've hardly begun to catalog the number of Iraqis killed by trigger happy Blackwater mercenaries.

          They say irony is dead and I (and Santayana) say that the problem with history is that people who don't learn from it are doomed to repeat it.

          •  That still in no way shows that we are at war now. (0+ / 0-)

            Not all bad and violent things are war.  I read that here all the time regarding terrorism.

            "[R]ather high-minded, if not a bit self-referential"--The Washington Post.

            by Geekesque on Thu Dec 15, 2011 at 07:47:25 PM PST

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