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  •  That's a good link. Thanks! (0+ / 0-)

    I think the title of the piece is badly chosen, but the detail of the remaining diplomatic, contractor and military personnel is really informative.  It looks to me like combat troops are out.  There is a small number of military associated with the training of some of the arms and systems.  There are contractors for protecting diplomats, other government civilians, etc.  Contractors clearly have different missions than the combat troops.

    Given the continued instability of the country and the desire to rebuild its infrastructure, why would this situation be any different?

    The only sense in which I connect with the "the war is not over" meme is that I don't think it's over for the Iraqi people in some sense.  The power vacuums created by the removal of Saddam are not filled with stable Iraqi designed arrangements yet.  There are still issues with the Kurds to sort out for example.  There is still a lot of work for the Iraqis in order for them to "win the peace".

    So, the US military combat troops are out of the Iraq War and that is good enough for me right now.  After Dubya's stupid move made Iran the unchecked power in the area, there are reasons enough for our State Dept. to be assisting Iraq to be independent and secure.

    Anyone that expected that ALL US personnel would leave Iraq, all contractors, all State Dept personnel, all military trainers, were being naive.

    We haven't even left South Korea yet and there still are combat troops stationed there.  By one count there are 22,000 combat troops stationed there, 4,000 contractors and another 47,000 military personnel in nearby Japan.

    So thanks again for a great link that details some of the complexity and nuance of the ongoing situation.

    I'm not liberal. I'm actually just anti-evil, OK? - Elon James White

    by Satya1 on Sat Dec 17, 2011 at 09:42:58 AM PST

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    •  Talk about naive: (0+ / 0-)
      So, the US military combat troops are out of the Iraq War and that is good enough for me right now.

      Using semantics to hide reality in marketing is called rebranding.  Renaming or outsourcing combat troops changes little when they are shot, have their legs blown off, kill Iraqis.

      •  that is hilarious (1+ / 0-)
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        IMHO equating troops with these contractors is bad analysis for a number of reasons.  There are a number of faulty assumptions you're working with here that I'm not going to try to untangle.  I'm done.

        I'm not liberal. I'm actually just anti-evil, OK? - Elon James White

        by Satya1 on Sat Dec 17, 2011 at 01:15:14 PM PST

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