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  •  The tar sands are much less that 1% (1+ / 0-)
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    of fossil fuel use now - and might eventually get up to 2 or 3%.

    Coal is way worse, and expanding rapidly.  I'm not sure why the tarsands are treated so vehemently while MTR coal mining is more or less ignored - hypocrisy, perhaps.  To me, one of the Obama administration's more egregious acts was fast tracking 42 of 48 MTR coal permits upon taking action.

    But in any event, essentially, a labor shortage is what is slowing tar sand extraction - not really anything more or less than that.

    as the NYT points out, there's not much else stopping it.  If the demand is there, humans will use this resource.

    As a stopgap measure, there already are railway links to the coast that the oil will be shipped on while the pipelines are being built (there already is a pipeline in place, btw).  

    •  I know a pipeline is in place (3+ / 0-)
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      but this one would be bigger, and it would go straight to Texas. Also it would have crossed over the ogallala aquifer-a spill or a leak would be catastrophic.

      I agree with you regarding coal being an even bigger threat. Lisa Jackson has been pretty effective at shutting a lot of the MTR operations down. But we have a long, long way to go there as well.

      R.I.P. Troy Anthony Davis
      October 9, 1968 - September 21, 2011

      by SwedishJewfish on Sat Dec 17, 2011 at 11:29:38 AM PST

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    •  labor shortage? Canada has brought in workers (1+ / 0-)
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      because the people of Canada are so opposed to the devestation few will work in the pit.

      without the ants the rainforest dies

      by aliasalias on Sat Dec 17, 2011 at 12:28:24 PM PST

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      •  No, that's not it at all (1+ / 0-)
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        divineorder

        It's more like life in northern Alberta totally sucks and no one wants to go there . . . combined with the fact that there simply are few people in Canada with the necessary skills.

        In the past, people from Atlantic Canada were happy to work in the Oil Industry, but they're having a bit of a boom themselves and a labor shortage of their own  (as explained in the link, which is from the local media) which is putting further stress on the worker situation.

        A few years back, McDonalds and Timothy Hortons were closing at 7 PM in Alberta because of the shortage of (even unskilled!) workers - and gawd knows nobody hates those fine companies!

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