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  •  That only follows if they are perfect. (3+ / 0-)
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    Obviously, it is what they believe to be the best defense.   That doesn't mean it is.

    She's the sort of person who would not only happily stay in Omelas, but would ask "Couldn't life be more wonderful if we threw a few more kids in there?"

    by JesseCW on Sun Dec 18, 2011 at 11:33:10 AM PST

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    •  inanity is the only defense with a shot. (0+ / 0-)

      I meant to write "insanity," but that's apt.  Anyways, he's obviously guilty; the only out is to negate mens rea.

      •  Far from it. (0+ / 0-)

        You don't know shit about Adrian Lamo if you believe that reasonable doubt doesn't exist.

        The bourgeoisie had better watch out for me, all throughout this so called nation. We don't want your filthy money, we don't need your innocent bloodshed, we just want to end your world. ~H.R.

        by chipmo on Mon Dec 19, 2011 at 06:18:09 AM PST

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        •  chipmo - understand this is a courts martial (0+ / 0-)

          and Manning is not being tried by a jury of his peers, but rather a panel of commissioned officers and if requested by the defense senior non-commissioned officers may also be appointed. My guess is that the defense will not ask for enlisted personnel to be part of the panel. While the members of the panel take an oath to be impartial there are few officers in the US Army who would ever want to be known as a member of a panel who let Bradley Manning walk. Manning will receive a very long prison sentence. His only hope is a Presidential pardon or commutation.

          "let's talk about that"

          by VClib on Mon Dec 19, 2011 at 10:32:58 AM PST

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          •  VCLib (0+ / 0-)

            I am not talking about the ridiculous fucking arguments back and forth about "military tribunal" and whatever other sort of rationalizations are used to excuse the manner in which the man is being and has been held or will be sent away into history as the scapegoat for America's crimes.

            I am responding to the "he's obviously guilty" statement, which seems to come so easily to the lips of those who haven't the intelligence to understand the difference between trials and trials by media, much less people who can't tell the difference between justice and a justice system.

            The bourgeoisie had better watch out for me, all throughout this so called nation. We don't want your filthy money, we don't need your innocent bloodshed, we just want to end your world. ~H.R.

            by chipmo on Mon Dec 19, 2011 at 10:55:08 AM PST

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            •  chipmo - the Army must prove that he disclosed (0+ / 0-)

              the classified material. However, if he did he is certainly guilty under the UCMJ of a serious offense. Under the UCMJ, the ruling authority in this case, there is no mitigation for revealing potential war crimes as part of the thousands of classified documents. However, had Manning released only the helicopter assault we would be dealing with a very different set of facts at this courts martial.

              "let's talk about that"

              by VClib on Mon Dec 19, 2011 at 11:15:17 AM PST

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              •  Well thanks for all of that information (0+ / 0-)

                that has a whole bunch to do with bureaucracy and absolutely nothing to do with justice.

                The bourgeoisie had better watch out for me, all throughout this so called nation. We don't want your filthy money, we don't need your innocent bloodshed, we just want to end your world. ~H.R.

                by chipmo on Mon Dec 19, 2011 at 12:44:53 PM PST

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              •  And the Army is calling the lying felon hacker (1+ / 0-)
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                as its witness... a lying felon hacker who has Asperger's... Adrian Lamo.

                And you think the liar Lamo... and his hacking manipulation of the chat logs... is credible?

                Furthermore, the Army is claiming that Manning chatted with someone named "Julian Assange."  As if Assange would use his actual name online if he were really involved with this. It wasn't a game of Sicilian revolving death cups there.


                Bridge Closed: Republican Tax CUTS At Work

                You just gonna stand there and bleed
                Or you gonna do something about it?

                by bronte17 on Tue Dec 20, 2011 at 07:25:35 PM PST

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