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  •  I often wonder what happened to all the peacenics? (3+ / 0-)

    Dkos use to be full of us.

    The Shock Doctrine should be required reading for all returning Vets. I despise at how they were used by Corporations.

    "Time is for careful people, not passionate ones."

    "Life without emotions is like an engine without fuel."

    by roseeriter on Sun Dec 18, 2011 at 02:28:18 AM PST

    •  Dkos may have its share of Peacenics... (2+ / 2-)
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      ... but it also has a huge share of Obamabots who defend fiercely anything that is not in line with keeping the Democrat party in power, even when this idea flies in the face of human rights.  It's all about the Ds beating the Rs and nothing else seems to matter.

      Fortunately, that is not a description of the whole bunch, just a giant chunk.

      Many of us are aware that the two-party system is just for show - a way of keeping us distracted and confused while the real political ideology, that of Corporatism, imposes its will on the people all over the world, by means of force or threat of force.

      Plutocracy + Police State = Fascism.  That is a very real threat we are looking at under the ruthless Obama regime and those whom he reports to.

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      by EricAllenBell on Sun Dec 18, 2011 at 02:37:05 AM PST

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      •  I don't agree with your 'ruthless Obama regime' (8+ / 0-)

        meme.

        Until we get money out of politics, end corporation's personhood, quell money equals free speech, get god out of state, etc., etc., No politician has a chance to actually work and do for the people even if he wants to. IMHO

        Unfortunately that change is going to take a lot longer than most of us have patience for so we must keep pushing left..

        No one human can do it by him/herself..

        "Time is for careful people, not passionate ones."

        "Life without emotions is like an engine without fuel."

        by roseeriter on Sun Dec 18, 2011 at 03:00:13 AM PST

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        •  Judging Obama by his actions (3+ / 0-)

          That's all.

          Not by his moving speeches, but by his renewal of the Patriot Act, his lies about closing Gitmo, the den of thieves he chooses as his advisers and the list goes on and on and on.

          We didn't make these same excuses for that village idiot of a President we had before Obama.  But somehow those of us non-Republicans tend to want to rationalize away the horrific violence of the police state under Obama.

          Mostly what Obama has done is expand the Bush doctrine more or less.  Expanding the government while taking away more and more of our rights and militarizing the police here at home - thus creating what appears to be possibly a police state.

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          by EricAllenBell on Sun Dec 18, 2011 at 03:17:06 AM PST

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          •  Renewal of the Patriot Act (2+ / 0-)
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            happened while he was a Senator, not a president.
             Gitmo cannot close because of the restrictions put on by Congress- the detainees cannot  be moved to the US or to any other country. What don't you get about that?
            As for militarizing our police, that has been going on since 9/11, as the DHS has poured billions of dollars into large and small police departments to buy equipment for SWAT teams and the like. Most of the militarization had already happened under Bush, so why blame Obama?

            You will never know what it’s like to work on a farm until your hands are raw, just so people can have fresh marijuana. Jack Handey

            by skohayes on Sun Dec 18, 2011 at 05:59:25 AM PST

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            •  I blame Obama for his actions (0+ / 0-)

              You have some of your facts wrong, by the way.

              Why make so many excuses for him?  His campaign promises don't fit with his choices and actions as President.

              He's a Plutocrat.

              He doesn't care about you.

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              by EricAllenBell on Sun Dec 18, 2011 at 11:36:04 AM PST

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              •  Which facts do I have wrong? (0+ / 0-)

                You will never know what it’s like to work on a farm until your hands are raw, just so people can have fresh marijuana. Jack Handey

                by skohayes on Sun Dec 18, 2011 at 02:17:58 PM PST

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                •  Obama Renews Patriot Act: (0+ / 0-)

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                  by EricAllenBell on Sun Dec 18, 2011 at 02:41:41 PM PST

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                  •  Another extension in 2005 (0+ / 0-)

                    which Obama didn't support at first, but then voted to pass the extension of the Patriot Act in March of 2006.

                    You will never know what it’s like to work on a farm until your hands are raw, just so people can have fresh marijuana. Jack Handey

                    by skohayes on Sun Dec 18, 2011 at 03:04:09 PM PST

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                    •  Wrong again (1+ / 0-)
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                      Do your homework.  Obama signed, as President, an extension of the Patriot Act - something he promised not to do while running for office.

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                      by EricAllenBell on Sun Dec 18, 2011 at 03:45:57 PM PST

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                      •  So what? (0+ / 0-)

                        You claimed I had my facts wrong, I proved you wrong.
                        Obama signed an extension of the Patriot Act before he was elected president.

                        You will never know what it’s like to work on a farm until your hands are raw, just so people can have fresh marijuana. Jack Handey

                        by skohayes on Mon Dec 19, 2011 at 03:55:07 AM PST

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                •  Militarization of Police Under Obama (1+ / 0-)
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                  Have you been paying attention to Occupy Wall Street?  Have you not seen all of the peaceful protesters and reporters being beaten, pepper sprayed?  Are you not aware that this was coordinated under the Dept of Homeland Security, under the authority of the President?

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                  by EricAllenBell on Sun Dec 18, 2011 at 02:43:12 PM PST

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                  •  LOL, that story was solidly debunked (2+ / 0-)
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                    the day after it popped up. The only proof that the author could come up for "DHS involvement" with federal officers present at an Occupy site (on federal property).

                    You will never know what it’s like to work on a farm until your hands are raw, just so people can have fresh marijuana. Jack Handey

                    by skohayes on Sun Dec 18, 2011 at 03:12:03 PM PST

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                    •  WRONG (1+ / 0-)
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                      There were numerous articles.  The DHS advised and instructed and the Attorney General, who reports to Obama, has never seen fit to take any action against the blatant police brutality, nor has Obama had a word to say about it either.

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                      by EricAllenBell on Sun Dec 18, 2011 at 03:44:54 PM PST

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                      •  There were numerous articles (0+ / 0-)

                        that were the same thing written over and over again.
                        No proof, no smoking gun, no secret meetings, no mushroom cloud.

                        You will never know what it’s like to work on a farm until your hands are raw, just so people can have fresh marijuana. Jack Handey

                        by skohayes on Mon Dec 19, 2011 at 03:52:08 AM PST

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                  •  Totally debunked CT (0+ / 0-)

                    so, in the end, you've got a juvenile perforative (obamabots) in one hand, and a debunked conspiracy theory in the other.

                    You should be embarrassed.

                    •  We live under a system of Plutocracy... (1+ / 0-)
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                      ... with Obama as the main PR wing.

                      Spin that how ever you need to.

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                      by EricAllenBell on Sun Dec 18, 2011 at 09:34:48 PM PST

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                    •  5/27/2011 - Associated Press (0+ / 0-)

                      JIM ABRAMS, Associated Press

                      WASHINGTON — Minutes before a midnight deadline, President Barack Obama signed into law a four-year extension of post-Sept. 11 powers to search records and conduct roving wiretaps in pursuit of terrorists.

                      "It's an important tool for us to continue dealing with an ongoing terrorist threat," Obama said Friday after a meeting with French President Nicolas Sarkozy.

                      With Obama in France, the White House said the president used an autopen machine that holds a pen and signs his actual signature. It is only used with proper authorization of the president

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                      by EricAllenBell on Mon Dec 19, 2011 at 11:22:55 AM PST

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                      •  and did you know (0+ / 0-)

                        that right before Obama landed in Australia, there was a crackdown on OccupySidney? The man's nefarious power has a global reach.

                        What are your thoughts on the birth certificate? how about all those camps?

                        •  Obama's birth certificate is not an issue for me (0+ / 0-)

                          My concerns are how badly he sold us out to the power elite.  There is so much evidence that one would have to be blind, willfully ignorant, to think that Obama is on your side.

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                          by EricAllenBell on Mon Dec 19, 2011 at 06:48:31 PM PST

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                •  Senator Obama 2006 on the Debt Ceiling (0+ / 0-)

                  “The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure,” he said. “It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. … Leadership means that ‘the buck stops here.’ Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better. I therefore intend to oppose the effort to increase America’s debt limit.”

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                  by EricAllenBell on Sun Dec 18, 2011 at 02:46:01 PM PST

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                •  More Importantly... (1+ / 0-)
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                  Obama promised "change" but in fact has been very instrumental in allowing Plutocracy to flourish.

                  Please don't make the mistake of confusing his moving speeches with his actual actions.  Look at the Wall Street criminals he has advising him.

                  Who poisons our food more than Monsanto and who does Obama want to appoint to oversee the safety of our food but a Monsanto Exec/Lobbyist?

                  Obama bombed the hell out of Libyan civilians using the smoke and mirrors of NATO without getting authorization or declaring war.

                  The man who won the 2008 elections is the man whom Wall Street backed that year.  The "banksters" have gotten away with it as Obama has actively blocked investigations.

                  Obama has actively blocked investigations into the Bush torture nightmare and many believe that torture continues under Obama.  I'm not sure if it does or not, only that he is covering GWBs ass.

                  Obama has not made any moves to prosecute GWB for war crimes but is going after Julian Assange for giving us what Candidate Obama promised: Transparency in government.

                  Obama is a puppet of the ruling power elite.  He makes moving speeches to pacify the left while his real loyalty remains with the Plutocrats and the Oligarchs.  

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                  by EricAllenBell on Sun Dec 18, 2011 at 02:52:31 PM PST

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                  •  You know (2+ / 0-)
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                    you're entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts.
                    I'm not going to bother arguing with someone who thinks "Obama bombed the hell out of Libyan citizens". yee gods

                    You will never know what it’s like to work on a farm until your hands are raw, just so people can have fresh marijuana. Jack Handey

                    by skohayes on Sun Dec 18, 2011 at 03:17:02 PM PST

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                    •  Fact - Countless Libyan civilians were killed... (0+ / 0-)

                      ... during the ruthless devastation of their country by imperial forces, under the guise of NATO and human rights, etc. and the oil companies are already making deals with the new Sharia governed transitional council.

                      Libya has gone from the oppression of Gadaffi to the opression of Islamic Law PLUS having to rebuild huge parts of their country after Obama spent hundreds of millions of American taxpayer dollars bombing the hell out of this oil rich region.

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                      by EricAllenBell on Sun Dec 18, 2011 at 03:48:43 PM PST

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                      •  Actually, they were counted (0+ / 0-)

                        If you want to go by Gaddafi's count, 354 civilians were killed by NATO.
                        Hardly the "countless" you claim.
                        But you go ahead on in your little fantasy world.

                        You will never know what it’s like to work on a farm until your hands are raw, just so people can have fresh marijuana. Jack Handey

                        by skohayes on Mon Dec 19, 2011 at 03:50:08 AM PST

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                        •  There is no reliable body count in Libya (0+ / 0-)

                          All we know is that Obama sent in missile that, among to other things, took out lots of innocent civilians.  No one knows for sure the number.

                          Much of the country that took decades to develop was demolished and soon after the oil companies approached the Sharia (Islamic Law) run Transitional Council and said, "Are you ready to do business now?"

                          The dust is still clearing and many more facts will undoubtedly come to light.  One thing we know for sure is that Obama spent hundreds of millions of American tax dollars to take care of "business" over there.  Another thing we know is that he seek authorization or declare war.  It was cleverly handled through NATO.

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                          by EricAllenBell on Mon Dec 19, 2011 at 11:28:00 AM PST

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      •  HR'd for use of pejorative "Obamabot" n/t (3+ / 0-)
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        Scientific Materialism debunked here

        by wilderness voice on Sun Dec 18, 2011 at 07:36:55 AM PST

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        •  LOL (1+ / 0-)
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          Grow up

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          by EricAllenBell on Sun Dec 18, 2011 at 11:36:28 AM PST

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          •  Mirror please (2+ / 0-)
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            You can't make your point without juvenile namecalling and you're telling others to grow up?

            •  The world "Obamabot" means something specific... (1+ / 0-)
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              It is a combination of two words, sort of like "infotainment".

              A person who is so enamored with Obama that they suspend their critical thinking, like a robot, is referred to appropriately as an "Obamabot".

              This is not swearing.  It's not intended as an insult.  It is merely fusing two words together to accurately describe a situation - kind of like an actress/waitress.

              What is juvenile is running off to tell cheecher that someone called you a name.

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              by EricAllenBell on Sun Dec 18, 2011 at 01:06:14 PM PST

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              •  Its a perjorative (2+ / 0-)
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                Used by some who can't make rational/adult arguments against those they disagree with.

                Obamabot gets HR'd every time its seen. You might want to try a blog where the term is widely accepted.

                •  No thanks (1+ / 0-)
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                  I'm not into making compromises in how I communicate to as to avoid ruffling feathers.

                  I also don't go out of my way to offend or shock or disrespect.

                  That said, I feel very strongly that the ruthless Obama regime is a reality we all need to wake up to.  I voted for him.  I was thrilled when he won.  It took a long time for me personally to stop rationalizing and making excuses for him and start to judge the man, not by his moving speeches, but by his actual actions.

                  Those who refuse to exercise critical thinking and instead back Obama no matter what are best described as "Obamabots".  If you feel that when you see that word you must "HR" it, that's really none of my business.

                  I hope you understand at least where I am coming from, even if you disagree.

                  Thanks,

                  Eric

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                  by EricAllenBell on Sun Dec 18, 2011 at 02:11:34 PM PST

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      •  The title of this piece is deceiving... (0+ / 0-)

        would you like to clarify what exactly you meant to say?

        Welcome Back from Iraq, We are Under Attack

        Or would it have been more aptly named:

        Plutocracy + Police State = Fascism= Obama

        It seems to me the latter was your real intention. At any rate, it was a cheap, unimaginative shot over the transom.

        Now, I don't know how it could possibly be that you've missed the hundreds upon hundreds of well articulated diarists who have voiced their displeasure with the Obama Administration over the years.

        Many of us are aware that the two-party system is just for show - a way of keeping us distracted and confused while the real political ideology, that of Corporatism, imposes its will on the people all over the world, by means of force or threat of force.

        Uh...again, don't break your arm patting yourself on the back believing it's only you (!) that's singularly aware of this.

        There are so many excellent writers here that expound upon this very subject daily, that if I began naming them, I'd leave someone out. I don't write, I read lots and appreciate the insightful, historically astute minds on this site.

        You might want to "get out more". Just wanted to say...

        •  Nope, the title says it all (0+ / 0-)

          While the troops were off fighting a war against an imagined threat, we are nonviolently fighting a war here at home against the ruling power elite to hold on to our way of life - the very way of life that these brainwashed homicidal tools of warfare thought they were protecting as they shot off the arms and legs of Iraqi children for the past 9 years.

          The rest of your review is not worth responding to.

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          by EricAllenBell on Sun Dec 18, 2011 at 09:32:44 PM PST

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