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  •  WaltStarr predicted this would happen (4.00)
    WaltStarr is a long time DUer with a good track record in evaluating political events.  He made this post on March 21:

    This Shiavo fiasco was dreamed up by two Republicans and two only. Number one on this was Tom DeLay (R- Ethics problems). The other Republican who dreamed up this fiasco was Bill Frist (R - Presidential Wannabe).

    10,000,000 : 1, Karl Rove was never consulted or he would have told them to shove the weekend last minute deal where the sun don't shine! He's smart enough to know that the best case scenario was to let the "subpoena maneuver" be the token expression from the Republicans and point to Democratic obstructionism as the reason why Terri died. This methodology becomes win-win for the Republicans. The American public has been conditioned to be reviled at a nanny government controlling every aspect of life from cradle to grave because Rove did most of the conditioning of the American Public to have that response!

    But DeLay is terrified of the ethics charges because he knows damn well and good he's in serious trouble, so he's using this as a way to attack back and say, "these ethics violation charges are a smear campaign by the pro-death movement." Unfortunately for that stupid strategy, the ethics violations came out long before he attempted his politcal pandering of the religious reich.

    Bill Frist, on the other hand, saw an opportunity to get his name in national news tied to an issue he saw as a basic for the base of the Republican Party. What he missed was that everybody else would think it's horrid, thus devestating any chance of him ever becoming president of these United States.

    This was a debacle by the Republican Party which goes to show, take Rove out of the equation and the Republicans show their moronic colors. Rove knew damn well and good that he was forced into a corner and Bush had to get back to sign whatever legislation he was given. The best he can hope for is to distance Bush from the ramifications of the center being pissed off at the Republican Party in general and George Bush in specifics because Bush had no choice but to sign the bill. Rove's position once DeLay decided to push it was untenable.

    Watch for Tom DeLay to be thrown overboard in the next three weeks. They will let the sharks feast because DeLay screwed the pooch and messed up big time. Frist will be in hot water for some time to come.

    "The mind of a bigot is like the pupil of the eye. The more light you shine on it, the more it will contract." Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.

    by pontificator on Tue Apr 05, 2005 at 08:23:40 PM PDT

    •  good analysis, but Rove is hell bent on privatizin (4.00)
      and that's going over like a lead anchor.  but something's up, they still seem quite sure and confident that some form of privatization will be passed this year.
    •  But two things complicate matters immensely (4.00)

      1. DeLay has every part of the House Ethics apparatus in his back pocket. He's not coming to this knife fight without a gun.

      2. He's got a bear-hug going with the rabid religious right, which is NOT Rove's natural constituency, nor Chimpy's. He's making damn sure he's got media firepower via the Chain-mail Christian Crowd.

      I'm really thinking he doesn't go down without an INCREDIBLY nasty fight, which he might actually see to a draw. Blood all over the floor, and Dems in the Hizzouse in 2006.

      In other words, fun for the entire family!

      •  I agree--and if Rove (4.00)
        was as much in control as he'd like to be, Jeb and the Prez wouldn't have come out of this so badly--there were a couple of days there, after Ms. Schiavo died, where they were pretty exposed, and I kept wondering where the usual spin was.

        ...the White House will be adorned by a downright moron...H.L. Mencken

        by bibble on Tue Apr 05, 2005 at 09:01:35 PM PDT

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      •  Rated "PG" (4.00)
        "In other words, fun for the entire family!"

        As in Painfully Gruesome...For the Repugs, anyway!

        I want butter on my popcorn, please.

              <Me VERY Bad>

        Tom DeLay is so corrupt...<HOW CORRUPT IS HE?>...He's so corrupt that when he takes the Oath of Office, he holds his hand OUT instead of UP!

        by mlkisler on Tue Apr 05, 2005 at 09:05:03 PM PDT

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      •  I say bring it the f**k on (n/t) (none)
        Oh, it's not cool to use that phrase anymore, is it?
    •  Another Asterisk on Rove-- (4.00)
      The American public has been conditioned to be reviled at a nanny government controlling every aspect of life from cradle to grave because Rove did most of the conditioning of the American Public to have that response!

      This goes back beyond 25 years. Reagan campaigned saying "government is the problem." He wouldn't have said it if it hadn't been marketable.

      Rove is certainly capitalizing on the current situtation but it's the result of a vast amount of groundwork laid before he came along.

      We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy....--ML King, "Beyond Vietnam"

      by Gooserock on Tue Apr 05, 2005 at 08:43:05 PM PDT

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    •  Not rove (none)
      Full-on damage control by the Congressional GOP caucus.

      I don't dispute that the White House is staying far far away from it, but I don't think they're sticking the shiv into DeLay.

      "The future will not belong to the cynics. The future will not belong to those who stand on the sidelines"-Paul Wellstone

      by Sauceman on Tue Apr 05, 2005 at 09:02:52 PM PDT

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