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  •  Well, the other difference (4+ / 0-)

    ... is that in 1990, Paul Wellstone (although of course a clearly under-funded underdog) was hardly a "Some Dude" candidate.  He had run for state auditor and Congress, twice chaired Jesse Jackson's Presidential campaigns in Minnesota, and was a very well know party activist.  Activists and party insiders knew him and liked him -- I'm not sure if Texas has someone who can really step up like that.

    •  Good point. (2+ / 0-)
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      Setsuna Mudo, MichaelNY

      That would certainly make a big difference.

      I don't mean to sound too wide-eyed and stupidly optimistic, but it seems like Democrats are leaving a lot of options on the table in regards to getting noticed, getting free media, and drawing a sharp contrast between establishment candidates. (The same can be said for Republicans in similar situations, but I don't care if they get elected.) And hell, it doesn't even have to work. I have no idea how young any of these guys are or whether they have the profile of a statewide candidate, but a solid margin here could be a good down payment for a future race. More broadly, part of the problem in the state is getting people to trust the Democratic brand, and if this gives people a different view of the party as an acceptable and trustworthy alternative, it'll go a long way to helping all Democrats.

      •  I stronlgy agree (1+ / 0-)
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        And we need to really start contesting Texas more fully.  Of course, the problem is that it's so effin' expensive.  Bill White was a really good candidate, and he probably did as well as could be expected given the circumstances.  It's amazing that the last Democrat to win a race for Texas Governor or Senator was Ann Richards over 20 years ago.

        •  Why is it amazing (1+ / 0-)
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          Its a heavily Republican state now and we've been losing ground since it was marginally Democratic state 20 years ago.  Dems don't have anyone elected statewide at the moment, do they?  

          That in and of itself lens to having a weak bench which leads to harder-to-win elections.

          •  Dems haven't had anyone (1+ / 0-)
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            elected to ANY statewide office in 20 years. Which is a bit more remarkable. But there are some heavily Democratic regions in the state, so there will always be a decent number of established state senators and reps, or big city mayors like White.

            •  Interesting RE: Jason Gibson from Houston (1+ / 0-)
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              MichaelNY

              From: Houston Chronicle

              Gibson is president of the Houston Trial Lawyers Association, and credits his late grandfather, O.D. Kenemore, a South Texas advocate for workers rights and a member of the Texas Labor Hall of Fame, with influencing his legal and political interests.

              Hope!!

              ...if only animals could write...

              by Jinnia on Wed Dec 21, 2011 at 09:56:25 AM PST

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        •  I wonder just how much of a difference (1+ / 0-)
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          there is in using paid advertising in a big, expensive state versus using other methods. You can use volunteers to some degree, of course, but even without that, I would assume it's less expensive, perhaps far less expensive, to do stuff that doesn't rely primarily on paid ads.

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