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  •  So why didn't the Democrats... (1+ / 0-)
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    ask for a voice vote?  It seems that it might have been nice to have all the nay votes on record to use them in campaign ads next fall.

    Wasted opportunity.

    •  Why would Democrats do that? (2+ / 0-)
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      And piss off all of the moderate Republicans that might have voted for the bill?  That would be a great way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

      Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves. - William Pitt

      by Phoenix Rising on Fri Dec 23, 2011 at 09:24:50 AM PST

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      •  I have no doubts they would have gotten the votes (0+ / 0-)

        The Republicans had no choice in the matter.  It was never the "moderate" votes that were the problem.  It has been said all week that Boehner was blocking the vote precisely because it would have passed with all Democrats voting aye and all but the tea party wing of the Republican party voting nay.  That nay wing has always been pissed off and would have been forced to either capitulate or go on record with their intransigence.  The moderates would have carried it over the line without a problem.

        •  Exactly! That could have set precedence on (0+ / 0-)

          future legislation and would render the Tea Party all but toothless. Unfortunately for America though, the Repubs like to use them as an excuse for their obstruction and noncompliance with doing the People's business.

      •  Moderate Republicans? Where have they been the (0+ / 0-)

        last three years?

        •  Let's assume you're right... (1+ / 0-)
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          ...and that by asking for a roll call vote the Republicans got pissy and torpedoed the deal.  That would have been the best outcome.  We would have had the Republicans giving a tax raise for Christmas and that would've consumed several days of news cycles absolutely lambasting the Republicans.  Every Democrat would have voted yes.  

          No doubt yet another "compromise" would have been forced on them by the end of next week as the volume of the critique reached a deafening tone and we'd have another vote.

          I believe in hard ball, and I think this was the moment to get these guys on record.

    •  what will be better (0+ / 0-)

      is for people to go around New Hampshire and Iowa over the next month or so, and yell at Michele Bachmann and Ron Paul "Thank you for the tax cut extension!!!".

      It's about time I changed my signature.

      by Khun David on Fri Dec 23, 2011 at 10:39:27 AM PST

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