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  •  Re: evidence of minimization.... (0+ / 0-)
    If you have figures, studies or reports that support your claim that male victimization is minimized,...

    It's everywhere if you can just see it. I've written about it but it gets ignored pretty much. I think its part of why, as you notice, sexual violence after decades of attention is still pervasive.

    You pepper your writings with constant remarks highlighting female victims over male. What's the utility of that? I thought "rape was rape". It should be. It shouldn't matter... any of it.

    An obvious problem is they didn't survey prisoners or military. Unless you think those are safe places for men. http://www.dailykos.com/... refers to

    about 90,000 had been abused in the previous year, but as we have argued previously,2 those numbers were also misleadingly low. Finally, in January, the Justice Department published its first plausible estimates. In 2008, it now says, more than 216,600 people were sexually abused in prisons and jails and, in the case of at least 17,100 of them, in juvenile detention. Overall, that’s almost six hundred people a day—twenty-five an hour.

    And yet, this NCVS study found insufficient reports of males raped in the last 12 months...  Guess we're certain nothing happened to any men...  Or there survey process isn't getting accurate data. There's a highly gendered bias built in.

    It all comes down to how one appreciates the uncertainty and secrecy that creates illusions of nothing happening. Penn State should tell us that males don't feel free to report. And won't be believed when they do. If a boy gets that treatment, you think a 200 pound male marine is going to get a sympathetic response? Or, maybe that just never happens. Drugs are used against females a lot, think that men never do that to other men? Or, the drugs don't work on men? Think not.

    Yet you make quite a case based on the 1 in 71 finding.

    I tend to believe something like the 3:2 ratio you like with CSA for ASA.  But in the end, it doesn't matter. The ACE study shows the enormous lifetime cost of sexual violence in childhood cases. ASA is similar. Many male traits, violence, emotionally angry or numb, less social/silent, suicide rates (times 4 completed), CD rates (times 4), ... all are similar to trauma effects.

    Women didn't report rape much at all to police in the 1950's...  (I'm looking and looking for all the data decade by decade if you can help me there), so I guess it didn't happen? Bet you don't agree. Similarly, I don't trust this studies self-report by men too much. It's still like ... idk, 1960 for men reporting being raped. I talked to a guy recently. He never reported it or got a SANE exam. Drugs were used. He still feels he did something wrong months later. Nightmares, isolation, PTSD... all the usual.

    Insanity is a perfectly rational adjustment to an insane world... -R D Laing

    by crazyamerican on Mon Dec 26, 2011 at 08:12:23 AM PST

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