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  •  While many young people are awake, (3+ / 0-)
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    there are many more who are completely disgusted by politics in general and while they know the system is broken, have no interest in getting involved and trying to do anything about it. Most people in my age group that I know (20-30) see very little difference between political parties and have a fairly libertarian view of things. They feel the government ceased to be helpful to them long ago and most (myself included) have no faith in programs like social security and Medicare being around when they get old enough to need them.

    "As we celebrate mediocrity all the boys upstairs want to see how much you'll pay for what you used to get for free"

    by Tim D M on Tue Dec 27, 2011 at 09:34:41 AM PST

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    •  If it will give you some perspective, (11+ / 0-)

      you should know that at the height of the youth movement during the 1960's, most young people were either disengaged or actively hostile to our goals. You don't need "most people" to be active, you just need enough people to form a critical mass, and a good chunk of the uninvolved will eventually be on your side, even if only passively.

      "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself."........ "The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little." (yeah, same guy.)

      by sidnora on Tue Dec 27, 2011 at 09:42:59 AM PST

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      •  Yes, sometimes a fraction of the population (7+ / 0-)

        is all it takes.

        •  As if they'd beeen reading over our shoulders, (1+ / 0-)
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          I heard someone on NPR shortly after posting that comment discussing what OWS has accomplished thus far, and he mentioned that at this point in the life of the anti-Vietnam War movement, it had only 10% popular support - not participation, just support!

          I'd love to see a diary showing what the Tea Party had accomplished at the 100-day mark. IIRC, they were busy being rude at congresscritters' Town Hall meetings. No mass rallies, even though they were probably already being underwritten by the Kochs and publicized by Faux. Also I seem to remember a widely-circulated email with pointers on how to disrupt meetings, which came from inside the conservative establishment.

          "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself."........ "The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little." (yeah, same guy.)

          by sidnora on Tue Dec 27, 2011 at 04:05:49 PM PST

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    •  I would argue that that is precisely the type (5+ / 0-)

      of apathy the system is designed to engender.  It benefits the criminal class of plutocrats.  But I understand why it's happening.

    •  It isn't a matter of not having "faith"... (1+ / 0-)
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      in social programs being around when you get old, it is a matter of understanding that social security and health care are "civil and human rights" that have been fought for and will only remain as long as enough people continue to participate in the politics necessary for their survival.

      "Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored."-- Aldous Huxley

      by figurine on Tue Dec 27, 2011 at 10:11:48 PM PST

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