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  •  I remember when... (1+ / 0-)
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    ... we all (academics & military) used the same network. Then I heard that the military was building its own parallel network & I wondered why -- I didn't appreciate how totally insecure the network we were using was. This must have been in the early 80's or late 70's, when I was in grad school.

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      Once it got off the ground, it was sort of open, but my sources tell me that in the beginning it was what we call "close hold".

      Warmest regards,


      I do not believe in anything.

      by Translator on Fri Dec 30, 2011 at 02:36:42 AM PST

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      •  Are both positions correct? (1+ / 0-)
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        IIRC, access to the ARPAnet was very limited, in that only certain people had access. So in that sense it was closely held.

        OTOH, that doesn't mean that it was secure. As a research vehicle, it was a benefit for the architecture to be "open" (meaning that how it worked was openly documented, not that it was available to everyone).

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        The original ARPANET sites included universities, and neither the users nor the programmers doing the network code had security clearances.  This was the Vietnam War era, and a lot of the people had mixed feelings about doing a neat project like that with Pentagon money...

        MILNET split its operations from ARPANET around 1983, at which point it literally became The Internet, meaning a network of interconnected networks. The whole Internet idea is that each network is autonomous, but they still exchange traffic.

        •  Very much CS research in early 80's... (2+ / 0-)
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          ...was funded by DARPA (Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency), just as nearly all CS research during WW2 was funded by the military.

          Certainly my research was DARPA funded, at MIT. My work had nothing to do with military applications -- that was enough for me (as someone who turned 18 a year and a half before the Viet Nam war ended).

          I thought it was great that DARPA was funding so much general-use (not explicitly military) CS research. The explicitly military research was done at Lawrence Livermore Labs.

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