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  •  good news...however...wait until Scalia (1+ / 0-)
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    and Thomas and Alito and Kennedy and Roberts get wind of this...you will see one of the most activist bunch of owned-bought-and-paid-for shills for the filthy rich overturn this decision in a heartbeat. Based on the blatantly corrupt and dishonest intervention by the court in the Gore v Bush recount (you know...where they basically told the whole country that "we don't need no stinkin' recount), it wouldnt' surprise me if they pushed all other business aside in order to...do the bidding of their corporate overlords who those Supreme Court Injustices have accepted bribes from.

      •  Ginnie? (1+ / 0-)
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        IreGyre

        No pillow and bank account talk?

        Me thinks there is.

        •  It's called ... (4+ / 0-)
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          ... a professional woman with significant Hill experience having a job.

          •  That's (1+ / 0-)
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            one way of looking at it.

            Wonder why if that's what it really is Clarence didn't declare her income. Hmmmm?

            •  I don't know why he didn't list that source (2+ / 0-)
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              It was certainly well-known and discussed in the press.

              •  Because (0+ / 0-)

                it wasn't so up and up.

                Face up to it already, this government at the top is bought and paid for—all 3 branches.

                  •  Everything (0+ / 0-)

                    they do, honey, it's for the criminal elite.

                    •  So ... (3+ / 0-)
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                      ... no one can be authentically conservative without being bribed?

                      •  if by "Authentically Conservative" one means (1+ / 0-)
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                        a couple of SC justices going to closed conventions of corporate sponsored think tank type events... and even being keynote speakers at what are thinly veiled partisan political cabals discussions... and keeping a pretense of being impartial... but it is not limited to things like this.

                        So yes of course they are "authentically conservative" in that they do not bother with much pretense of impartiality or lack of ties to very focused powerful interests who self describe as "conservative"...

                        And as far at the word "bribed", it is a narrowly defined term... there are many other inducements and persuasion tactics far beyond a bag of money that do the same thing... not the least of which is grooming young replacements in relatively new right-wing law-schools established for the specific purpose of replacing as many of the judges, federal attorneys, state and local legal establishment with compliant like minded people in a decades long campaign... the "bribe" is the entire career  of the chosen ones... from being accepted in the law school and anything else after that greased the skids to ensure a large cohort of "acceptable" candidates  from which to advance the most promising semi-pawns into the highest positions... a mapped out lucrative career path for tools goes far beyond bribes and it is not just for future jurists but corporate law, lobbyists, strategic government roles all mixed together. Who ends up where in the end is not as important as the overall effort across the board to control the USA.

                        Programming the people and the system goes far beyond mere bribes... but each person who moves up the ladder does somehow do quite well for themselves in investments and total net worth thanks to the inherent connections with their patrons' interests... so in the end it is a concept of bribe that is much more dangerous and powerful. And if they are not just conservative by inclination but are tools of self-serving oligarchs... are they still "Authentic conservatives"? Sounding like it is not enough. If they are party to maiming the lives of most citizens, conservative or progressive... I think they are not "authentic conservatives" in the original intended sense. But if there is a new definition of the term that replaces the old connotation... then yes they are the new form of "Authentic Conservative" which is actually a corruption of it twisted to serve the 0.1%... and that is historically what happens to conservatism - the philosophy is co-opted quite easily as a tool to perpetuate the wealth and power of the few at the expense of the many.

                        Pogo & Murphy's Law, every time. Also "Trust but verify" - St. Ronnie (hah...)

                        by IreGyre on Sun Jan 01, 2012 at 08:06:02 AM PST

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      •  you don't think people like Thomas (0+ / 0-)

        and Scalia have benefited financial from the very people whom the Citizens United decision helps the most?

      •  There is no obvious bribe, no meetings where value (1+ / 0-)
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        is promised for certain decisions, quid pro quo.

        Certainly there are judges who are corrupted and are discovered, the notorious example of the Pennsylvania judge throwing the book and serving heavy incarceration to nearly all youngsters coming to his court to stuff the cells of a private corrections company needing lots of clients to keep getting large sums from the taxpayers.  He received money from them as appreciation, a share of the loot.

              The quid pro quos are more subtle and more cleverly done than to have somebody openly solicit or complete a bribe process that could be electronically captured and used a centerpiece in a bribery trial.  No, the bribery is in the indirect emoluments and things of value that accrete to the judges' circle, like his family, his pet interests or hobbies or pursuits .   He belongs to them. He is a "made man", in Mafia parlance.  Not that mafia, but the 1% mafia.

               It is interesting that Thomas can get financing for a museum about things he is interested in by way of a friendly associate in business or law, but not get things of value directly to himself.

                    Having a degree or two of separation satisfies the bribery statute.   When he leaves the office and his family or estate are given proper remunerative thanks that had been  unwise to reveal or display until he was off the court, we may or may not find out the true extent of his cooperation and active furthering of the interests of certain groups.

                   Unlike a Spiro Agnew, who got paper bags of currency every week from pay to play contractors in Maryland even as sitting Vice President of the United States, these justices are far too wily and circumspect to be caught out in obvious plays soliciting or accepting the financial thanks of those they work for.

                     The judge in that PA  case got sentenced to more than 20 years himself, a tiny fraction of all the corrupted sentencing years he handed out.

        If you think that you and a bunch of other people can just show up on Wall St, camp out and have any effect whatsoever.... well, you will be run off in 20 minutes., you will leave town having wasted your effort 6/18/11.

        by BeeDeeS on Sat Dec 31, 2011 at 06:15:19 PM PST

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