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  •  Iran provoking a war (5+ / 0-)

    I want all these people banging the war drums for bombing the crap out of Iran to provide me with detailed information on the last time that Iran engaged in initiating a war on any other country.  Who is the mad elephant barging into other countries laying waste, death, destruction and cluster bombs for all the kids to play with?  Hint, it is NOT Iran.

    The law, in its majestic equality, forbids rich and poor alike from sleeping under bridges. ~ Anatole France

    by ActivistGuy on Thu Jan 05, 2012 at 07:22:55 AM PST

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    •  Iran-Iraq, 10 years worth. (1+ / 0-)
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      blue aardvark

      Many are just playing out 'what ifs' in this thread.

    •  Technically speaking, the US Embassy (1+ / 0-)
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      takeover of 1979. An embassy is sovereign territory, so when Iranian citizens with the tacit approval of their government overran our embassy that was an invasion of US territory.

      Which is not to say that's on the same scale as invading Iraq in 2003. I merely wish to point out that Iran, like many nations, is constrained more by what they can get away with than by international law or a love of peace.

      In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice; but in practice, there always is a difference. - Yogi Berra

      by blue aardvark on Thu Jan 05, 2012 at 07:37:13 AM PST

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    •  That's really not the point (1+ / 0-)
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      No country starts a war until it does. But perhaps the point you are trying to make is that Iran wants nukes because it is paranoid about being invaded and this is its ultimate insurance policy. After all, the US invaded its neighbors to the west and to the east, rejected its overtures after 9/11 (huge strategic error by the US), and generally feels that the US and Israel have pretty belligerent attitudes toward them, including assassinating their scientists and launching computer attacks on them, not to mention the immense financial pressure they are under. So I quite understand Iranian motivations on this score. I have no great sympathy for the regime but I think I get why they are doing what they are doing.

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