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  •  Our survival is dependent on many, many forms (10+ / 0-)

    of life.  If you get to the bottom of that food chain - to Plankton - and Plankton disappears - so would basically most humans - because large numbers of humans are dependent on seafood (both animal and vegetable).

    Bees make agriculture possible.

    So many species have become extinct in the last 200 years, we have already outdone several major extinction events in Earth's history.  We have only a little control, and it is being wasted turning the wrong dials, and pushing the wrong buttons.  I fear for my species.  We are capable of great things, some of them wonderful, and some of them terrible.  

    #OccupyOMC - "We have a permit, its called The Constitution".

    by Evolutionary on Thu Jan 05, 2012 at 12:04:25 PM PST

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    •  Not to mention so much about our interdependence (7+ / 0-)

      is still not well known. We are blindly destroying other life forms without knowing thier place in the whole. What if it is an illusion that we are independent bodies from the rest of life on earth? When I read about nature I see that every niche to use energy is colonized by something. So if you damage some niche dweller what will replace it?

      Sometimes I even look at the human body as a cooperative of organisms that form thier own ecology. Damage part and the body may survive. BUt if you break the system in some unforseen way the whole system will collapse. We still don't understand the human bodies ecology so we are changing it in ways that may destroy our species. So the same can be said for the worlds systems.

      So it is not just our dependence that matters but what damaging the system of interdependence can change it to.

      Fear is the Mind Killer

      by boophus on Thu Jan 05, 2012 at 12:20:46 PM PST

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      •  Without the bacteria in our guts, we wouldn't be (5+ / 0-)

        able to digest the food we eat.  Every form of life is interconnected in some way.

        Our Ecology is similar to a house of cards - a strong set of cards, but it only takes the removal of one or two cards for the whole thing to collapse.

        #OccupyOMC - "We have a permit, its called The Constitution".

        by Evolutionary on Thu Jan 05, 2012 at 12:48:06 PM PST

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        •  Bacteria are essential to our health. Our skin (1+ / 0-)
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          depends on it. I read one scientist years ago who claimed that bacteria help us fight off viruses. I never read any more so I figured  his theses was disproved  but maybe it was just dismissed as nonsense.

          What I find fascinating is the number of organisms that organs in our own bodies resemble.  Simple to complex genetic maps that use blocks of genes like computer code to include those simpler designs within more complex organisms. I stopped studying programming before C++ but isn't that how C++ works... blocks of effective programming?

          Fear is the Mind Killer

          by boophus on Thu Jan 05, 2012 at 02:41:13 PM PST

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        •  Not exactly (2+ / 0-)
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          the gut bacteria digest certain indigestible components of food (e.g., fiber) thus increasing the caloric value of food by about 30%

          In today's America with rampant obesisty, that's not really a good thing (but the bugs do lots of other good things for us, like preventing degenerative brain disease, so I'll give them a pass on that . . . )

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