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  •  She probably was in hospice care. (10+ / 0-)

    It is sometimes offered in hospitals.

    You can get hospice care at home. They give as much or as little help as needed. They are better about giving adequate pain medication.

    zyou definitely need to make sure your organization is a non profit and check on the head, cEO or what ever they call it, top person and what they are paid. If it is absurdly high, don't use them.

    There are lots of decent services. there are lots of cheats. A big chain of for profit organizations is suspect from the get go.

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    by samddobermann on Sat Jan 07, 2012 at 04:55:48 AM PST

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    •  I thought all Hospices apply for non-profit status (4+ / 0-)
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      and although my Mom was treated as if she was in Hospice care, the same Doctors and nurses treated her  from the time she was admitted until she died and she was not in a "hospice ward". However, my Mom died in December and in the spring, the hospital she was in started it's very own hospice unit. We set up a fund in my Mom's name, my brother had some wealthy friends that wanted to do something, so we set up this fund and contributed the money to the hospital for their Hospice unit. I was so impressed with them, her nurses actually cried when she passed away and she only knew them for less than three weeks, they were all amazing. As I said earlier, the same was not true for my Mother-in-law, she had a different nurse come in every day, they stayed for two hours and then left. We live in California and my Mother-in-law lived in N.Y. the decision for her hospice care was not ours to make, it was up to her daughter and son whom she lived with.

      •  the hospital starting offering Hospice services (3+ / 0-)
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        before they were ready to open a unit.

        Some hospice care is in a free standing structure either independent or connected to a hospital. Some of the care can be at home; most people want to be at home when they are nearing the end — with their family and friends around.

        Some don't have homes or need full time or live in help. There are all sorts of ways for people to get help.

        But cheaters like these are the ones who necessitate all the complicated layers of rules.

        I'm pissed that they are not going after them for intentional, deliberated fraud. I hope that this will allow CMS  to kick them off the eligibility list so they can't take Medicare/Medicaid patients again.

        You'd better believe the nurses aids etc are not decently paid or treated at all.

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        by samddobermann on Sun Jan 08, 2012 at 02:41:39 AM PST

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        •  I think you are right about the hospital starting (0+ / 0-)

          to offer Hospice care before they opened up a hospice unit. My Mom had a brain tumor and was quickly losing all of her abilities to walk, speak, and even swallow. Unless we had round the clock care at home, it was not possible for her to be at home. As I said before, the hospital was amazing, we were allowed to be there 24/7, if she wanted one of us to stay with her through the night, they allowed it. If we couldn't, they simply put an aid in her room with her to spend the night. She died as she lived, surrounded by family, we even brought some of her stuff to the hospital so it looked like home, only more comfortable for her. While knowing and watching your Mom dies is never a pleasant experience, the staff helped us to cope with the loss as well.  As I said my Mother-in-laws experience was very different, even though she died at home in her own bed. Her every need was not met and the family had to wait for the hospice aid to come to give her pain medication, the family was never sure if her moaning was real pain or just the normal progression of death. I don't recall my Mom moaning at all, she slept alot towards the end and it was a very peaceful end to her life.

      •  Profit and Not for Profit (3+ / 0-)
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        In the Phoenix area there are around 40 Hospice providers. . . I think all but two are for profit. I volunteer for a not for profit and there is a big difference.

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        by Gilmore on Sun Jan 08, 2012 at 05:29:23 AM PST

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