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  •  What Biblical mandate? (9+ / 0-)

    Psalm 109 is a psalm of lament, a man (possibly King David) who is telling his true feelings to God, getting his anger out so that he can, at the end of the psalm, recognize his own need for forgiveness. It is not quoted as God's words. Jesus, on the other hand, tells us to love our enemies and pray for those who persecute us.  That is the Biblical mandate.

    Five years after I chose my username, happily living somewhere else.

    by Tenn Wisc Dem on Sun Jan 29, 2012 at 02:08:50 PM PST

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    •  TWD, you so miss the point it isn't even funny (9+ / 0-)

      to get a clue: google: imprecatory prayer against Obama...Then come back and appreciate the work that Frederick Clarkson and his colleagues are doing on our behalf

      I belong to the “US” of America, not the “ME,$,ME,$,ME,$,ME,$” of America!

      by SeaTurtle on Sun Jan 29, 2012 at 02:28:54 PM PST

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      •  Yikes, I had no idea. (2+ / 0-)
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        Even we didn't wish that on Bush!

        "Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake. Matthew 5:11

        by parsonsbeach on Sun Jan 29, 2012 at 03:05:12 PM PST

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      •  I got the point (1+ / 0-)
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        My point was separate. I was protesting about the person here who thinks that Psalm 109 speaks for God.  I have great appreciation and admiration for Frederick Clarkson and his and his colleagues. They do great work in presenting the Religious Left. But he didn't, in this specific situation, do an exegesis of the passage quoted, which allowed others to think that God actually advocates our hating our enemies which is, of course, is false.

        Five years after I chose my username, happily living somewhere else.

        by Tenn Wisc Dem on Sun Jan 29, 2012 at 03:29:12 PM PST

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        •  I beg to differ, TWD (9+ / 0-)

          if you say

          They do great work in presenting the Religious Left

          You did not, in fact, get the point.  You did not, in fact, even look up the material.

          Nor is the point of this diary:

          But he didn't, in this specific situation, do an exegesis of the passage quoted, which allowed others to think that God actually advocates our hating our enemies which is, of course, is false.

          Exegesis?  Are you kidding me?  They are using biblical passages as death threats... This is not about tracing down the original Aramaic or Greek and finding which author wrote the document, who then redacted it, who then edited it and what those words meant in the original?

          This is about how the passages are being used today.  To try to instigate some loony to assassinate our president.

          I belong to the “US” of America, not the “ME,$,ME,$,ME,$,ME,$” of America!

          by SeaTurtle on Sun Jan 29, 2012 at 03:47:41 PM PST

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        •  The Bible is the word of God to many Christians, (0+ / 0-)

          so even though the Psalm may have been a lament of King David, it's still the word of God because it's in the Bible.

    •  What about Psalms 55? (1+ / 0-)
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      Let death take my enemies by surprise; let them go down alive to the grave

      seems a bit harsh. Especially if you have unmanned drones to do the job yourself . . .

      or what about when Jesus said:

      Matthew 10:34. "Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth. I did not come to bring peace but a sword.

      Or when He told George W. Bush to attack Iraq?

      Seems like some awfully mixed messages in there.

      Or, to look at it another way, Christianity lets one play either side of the issue.  And very conveniently, either pray for your enemies to be smitten or on occasion, do the smiting yourself (well actually not "on occasion" - Christians have been slaughtering others massively over the past two millenia)..

      So, from afar, it's rather amusing.  On second thought, maybe not THAT amusing - rather, maybe it's time for the whole system to go.

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