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  •  US political and media cities benefit from warmth (12+ / 0-)

    Aside from dirty energy lobbyists pumping millions of dollars into buying our Congress, I do think there is a subconcious enjoyment of this unnatural winter warmth. The political and media powerhouse cities of US (namely DC and NYC) benefit from warmer winters, and this viewpoint is reinforced by local news. Watch the 11pm news in NYC on a unusually warm day, and the weather people will always gush about how wonderful it is to have a 50 degree high in January.

    An anecdotal point: my mom, among the most progressive Democrats I know, is an intelligent woman who believes that climate change is real and man-made. However, she's a self-described winter hater, and I bet that even someone as intelligent as her isn't complaining that she might not have to deal with too much snow this year.

    •  I don't blame her. My heating bills are (5+ / 0-)

      much lower this year (I'm in Maryland). Yes, I know I'll be paying for it in the not-too-distant future, but it helps the tight budget I'm trying to navigate this year. I am curious to see what next summer will be like for us-we went solar last September.

      A society grows great when old men plant trees in whose shade they know they shall never sit. - Greek proverb

      by marleycat on Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 09:07:07 AM PST

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    •  Maybe mom, et al, will change their minds... (1+ / 0-)
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      ...when the floods, tornadoes, draught, etc. etc finally destroy their homes and lives?

      If she's as smart as you say, then I think she'll snap to the reality before then, in terms of her own material self-interest, and get on the bus, to help deal with the problem.

      Democracy is the most fundamental revolutionary principle.

      by Radical def on Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 09:25:26 AM PST

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      •  Whoa, no need to be snappy (2+ / 0-)
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        Believe me, I'm with you on that. I was actually wishing for 15 degree January days since I know what the consequences will be. And I, as a 25-year-old, certainly have more to be worried about than my much older mom. But no need to be snappy about it.

    •  That attitude will change when parts of those (1+ / 0-)
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      cities are under water.

      #OccupyOMC - "We have a permit, its called The Constitution".

      by Evolutionary on Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 09:51:12 AM PST

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    •  I'm not a fan of it myself, (3+ / 0-)
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      but I don't think many people around here have a "Isn't it great how warm its been in January?" attitude. Most of my state is farm country, particularly winter wheat. The wheat needs precipitation, and the crop is usually buried under snow for part of the year. I'm finding the unusually warm winter unsettling and kind of creepy.

      "YOPP!" --Horton Hears a Who

      by Reepicheep on Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 02:47:23 PM PST

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    •  The Frog Liked the Warm Water Too (1+ / 0-)
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      at least up to a point.

      Someone in a very expensive suit is at the front door and says he wants to foreclose on our democracy. Where should I tell him he can put his robosigning pen?

      by Into The Woods on Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 04:32:39 PM PST

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