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  •  If Oklahoma wanted a constitutional approach... (2+ / 0-)
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    terrypinder, Oh Mary Oh

    ...to this issue, a referendum would be passed that prohibits the courts from giving preferential treatment to any religious law, or to applying religious law in cases where it might be appropriate (such as the interpretation of the will used as an example by the plaintiff) should not be applied to those who do not believe or follow that particular set of religious laws.

    Of course they wouldn't want to pass anything like that because it would end up hurting the preferential treatment that Christianity often gets.  And that, in turn, would undermine the "Christians are persecuted" meme that Republicans have been pushing.

    Political Compass: -6.75, -3.08

    by TexasTom on Tue Jan 10, 2012 at 01:19:55 PM PST

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    •  Can you give an example of the alleged (0+ / 0-)

      preferential treatment that you think Christianity gets that would be prohibited by a law such as you suggest?

      Since most of Christianity (with some notable exceptions such as Catholicism) does not have religious law it is hard to see how a law banning application of religious law would impact Christianity at all.

      •  Blue laws, dry counties, "moments of silence" (2+ / 0-)
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        "Sin Taxes", Christmas-as-Federal-holiday, town nativity scenes, et cetera.

        It may not be as overt, but the U.S (as a populace, if not as a government) does seem to prefer Christianity over other religions.

        Would these be prohibited? Probably not, though. But courts do use Christian and Jewish arbitration, which would be illegal under such a referendum.

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        by terrypinder on Wed Jan 11, 2012 at 04:58:12 AM PST

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        •  None of these meet the criteria (0+ / 0-)
          a referendum would be passed that prohibits the courts from giving preferential treatment to any religious law, or to applying religious law in cases where it might be appropriate (such as the interpretation of the will used as an example by the plaintiff) should not be applied to those who do not believe or follow that particular set of religious laws

          None of the examples you cite are religious law as commonly understood.

          In fact, you will have a hard time pointing to
          "religious law" in Christianity as opposed to more legalistic religions such as Judaisim and Islam.

          •  and yet, all same sex marriage bans (0+ / 0-)

            essentially are based on religious laws--from Leviticus, and are promulgated by (some) Christians.

            *shrug*

            I don't think I'll have that hard a time. All I have to do is listen to what the GOP and other social conservatives in this country say.

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            by terrypinder on Fri Jan 13, 2012 at 05:51:08 AM PST

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            •  Actually, Leviticus did not have anything to say (0+ / 0-)

              about same sex marriage.

              You seem to think that any religious prohibition is religious law.  That is incorrect.

              However, if you do want to make that claim then it would seem that laws against murder and robbery are also religious law, which begins to make this all seem quite silly.

      •  You really believe what you wrote? (2+ / 0-)
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        Oh Mary Oh, terrypinder

        I'm amazed...just amazed that someone who is on Daily Kos can be that oblivious to the preferences that Christianity gets.

        Terrypinder already provided some good answers.  I would also add to that list things like student led prayers at football games (which are pretty much always Christian), as well as session opening prayers at various government meetings, public displays related to the Judeo-Christian heritage, etc.

        As for Christianity not having any religious laws -- well, what do you think the Ten Commandments are?

        Political Compass: -6.75, -3.08

        by TexasTom on Wed Jan 11, 2012 at 05:24:14 AM PST

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