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  •  Really? Which part did I get (2+ / 0-)
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    Brown Thrasher, Cassandra Waites

    wrong? Because I was under the impression SOPA did in fact criminalize linking to anything deemed as rogue site. It may sound ridiculous and unworkable, but that's only because the bill itself is ridiculous and unworkable.

    P.S. If I'm a pirate for arguing against this bill, then I guess I'm in good company considering the heads of Google, Wikipedia, Reddit and most tech companies oppose it. Apparently Tim Berners-Lee, Vint Cerf and Al Gore are pirates too, who knew?:)

    •  linking is not the issue (0+ / 0-)

      Both bills do not say ANYTHING about linking to a site that has infringing content if the link is not related to the primary purpose of your site. They both plainly say that the site's primary purpose has to be infringement. Linking to a site with infringement isn't infringement... UNLESS the primary purpose of your site IS to infringe... say for example, a pirated movie torrent directory that primarily links to sites who have pirated movies... the primary purpose of your site is then to promote pirated content.

      It is very easy to tell the primary purpose of at least 99% of actual sites by their content... that is why I pass judgement on those commercial file sharing sites that pay pirates to pirate.

      •  Actually linking is indeed covered (2+ / 0-)
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        Cassandra Waites, Brown Thrasher

        by SOPA. There is a section that says that "search engines" will be forced to remove links to infringing sites.

        Search engine is defined rather broadly as "a service made available via the Internet whose primary function is gathering and reporting, in response to a user query, indexed information or Web sites available elsewhere on the Internet."

        Sites like Twitter, Flickr and Wikipedia (according to analysis by Wikipedia's legal team) could easily qualify as "search engines" under this definition:

        Wikipedia arguably falls under the definition of an “Internet search engine,”[3] and, for that reason, a federal prosecutor could obtain a court order mandating that the Wikimedia Foundation remove links to specified “foreign infringing sites” or face at least contempt of court sanctions.[4]  The definition of “foreign infringing sites” is broad[5] and could well include legitimate sites that host mostly legal content, yet have other purported infringing content on their sites.

        Therefore, under SOPA, Wikipedia (and every other major site that aggregates links and information) will be forced to spend their time scrubbing and disappearing links to (and content originating from) "rogue sites."

        Of course, the internet blacklist you are advocating could easily grow to include hundreds of thousands (if not millions eventually) of foreign sites. What could possibly go wrong?

        •  Reddit (3+ / 0-)

          The Reddit General Manager Erik Marin, said something similar saying that

          If SOPA passes in anything like it's current form, it would almost certainly mean the end of reddit. It may not happen overnight, but we have a very small staff (~11, mostly engineers), and even dealing with DMCA stuff is a big burden for us. SOPA would make running reddit near impossible. And we have access to great lawyers through our parent company. I can't imagine how smaller sites without those kind of resources could even attempt a go at it if SOPA passes.

          The Myth That SOPA/PIPA Only Impact 'Foreign Sites'
          •  volunteers... (1+ / 0-)
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            reddit is a huge community with multiple mods per topic. Reddit General Manager Erik Marin is blowing smoke up your ass.

            I am (and have been) an active member of reddit for two years now... just had my second cake day, as a matter of fact. I am well aware of how reddit works.

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