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  •  This week my doctor told me (11+ / 0-)

    she believes Medicare eligibility age should be lowered to 0.

    Even some Democrats, it is rumored Obama as well, are proposing raising the age from 65 to 67. That will actually kill people and impoverish a whole lot more.

    Skepticism of all the elite institutions, not trust, is what required for successful leadership in this era. Digby

    by coral on Mon Jan 16, 2012 at 06:14:28 PM PST

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    •  WHAT? (6+ / 0-)
      Even some Democrats, it is rumored Obama as well, are proposing raising the age from 65 to 67.

      Who are these idiots?  Yes, it will kill people. If it happens, I'll be one of those people.  Hell, I think it's crazy that I have to wait 5 years.  (Yes, I'm 60).

      Raising the SS age pisses me off.  Raising the Medicare age?  Far, far worse.

      I am become Man, the destroyer of worlds

      by tle on Mon Jan 16, 2012 at 06:25:40 PM PST

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      •  that is a lie (1+ / 0-)
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        there is NO such thing.

        not happening.

        Obama is helping america get single payer through Vermont and is improving people's lives significantly in 2014.

        •  Actually you're wrong. Obama's administration (5+ / 0-)
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          has repeatedly, on record, indicated a willingness to raise the Medicare age as part of sundry compromise packages.

          It's not a lie. Calling it a lie is, at best, ignorant. At worst, it is itself a lie.

          •  I think a lot of people still don't get him (1+ / 0-)
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            A lot of people see something from the administration and completely misunderstand it.

            Obama is subtle. He will happily say "Yes, we could do this. But of course, if we do, then we would also have to do that and the other", knowing full well that that and the other are completely unacceptable to the other side.

            But his liberal critics then jump on this and say "The administration has gone on record as being prepared to do this", which quickly morphs into "Obama intends to do this" and so to "Obama is a Republican shill corporate traitor sell-out."

            I've given up listening to people who misrepresent Obama's position in this way.

   - Where Pragmatic Progressives are now Regrouping - Clear thinking liberals welcome

            by ultraviolet uk on Tue Jan 17, 2012 at 05:35:15 AM PST

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          •  that one (0+ / 0-)

            Instance was a trial balloon in the debt ceiling.

            Obama does not really support that odious proposal. His administration has strengthened medicare through ppaca.

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